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re: Tua Tagovaila is the all time ncaa leader in passing efficiency.....

Posted on 1/5/20 at 5:24 pm to
Posted by John Milner
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Posted on 1/5/20 at 5:24 pm to
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and it's already been proven those stats are bullshite too. LSU hasn't even played 11 top 10 teams

*Career stats as a starter (2 seasons for both)*


LSU didn't play 11 top 10 teams the 2 years combined. And what a team is ranked when you played them doesn't count for shite. Texas was top 10 the first week of the year but aren't even top 25 by the end of the year. Alabama and Auburn aren't top 10 either. All your bullshite made up stats serve to do is undermine what Burrow actually did accomplish.

edit to say that Alabama may be final top 10 due to the bowl game but as of right now they are not
This post was edited on 1/5/20 at 5:25 pm
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/5/20 at 5:27 pm to
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he didn't complete the required 325 passes to rank for the year. 


So this is bullshite

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1 Tua Tagovailoa 206.9 2019 Alabama
2 Joe Burrow* 204.6 2019 LSU
3 Tua Tagovailoa* 199.4 2018 Alabama


Corrected for accuracy

1 Joe Burrow* 204.6 2019 LSU
2 Tua Tagovailoa* 199.4 2018 Alabama
Posted by The_Ultimate_Warrior
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 1/5/20 at 5:29 pm to
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edit to say that Alabama may be final top 10 due to the bowl game but as of right now they are not


At least you're consistent..... consistently wrong. But consistent.

Alabama is currently #9 in the poll that releases a post-season poll.

AP Poll
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
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Posted on 1/5/20 at 5:31 pm to
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A1abana not top 10 either.

Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/5/20 at 5:43 pm to
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he didn't complete the required 325 passes to rank for the year.



So this is bullshite

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1 Tua Tagovailoa 206.9 2019 Alabama
2 Joe Burrow* 204.6 2019 LSU
3 Tua Tagovailoa* 199.4 2018 Alabama


those were the stats from the same website last week. It's Tua's actual pass efficiency total for the year. I copied and saved them because I knew that's how the website worked and I wanted the actual stats.

did you click the career link?

in case you didn't click it the first time
This post was edited on 1/5/20 at 5:50 pm
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 1/5/20 at 5:44 pm to
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Tagovailoa also had the best pass efficiency rating this year but his injury cut short the year so he didn't complete the required 325 passes to rank for the year.


The NCAA requires you to equal a number of attempts to 15 per game for your team. Technically he reached that.
Posted by The_Ultimate_Warrior
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 1/5/20 at 5:46 pm to
And also play in 75% of your team’s games. Which he did not reach.
This post was edited on 1/5/20 at 5:47 pm
Posted by bstew3006
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Posted on 1/5/20 at 5:58 pm to
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Tua Tagovaila


By far the best 7 on 7 QB ever!
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/6/20 at 8:53 am to
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did you click the career link?


Yes, you lying dipshit.

But this...

quote:


1 Tua Tagovailoa 206.9 2019 Alabama
2 Joe Burrow* 204.6 2019 LSU
3 Tua Tagovailoa* 199.4 2018 Alabama


Is the single season rankings and you are full of shite.

The correct single season rankings, according to your link...

1 Joe Burrow* 204.6 2019 LSU
2 Tua Tagovailoa* 199.4 2018 Alabama
Posted by 1badboy
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Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:06 am to
Looks like this year, we can't beat anyone but The GUMPS & Auburn!!!
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Member since Dec 2019
52493 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:06 am to
How many titles did he lead Bama to? Surely he won a Heisman right?
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:07 am to
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It’s the new football. It will be broken next year.


It's crazy looking at that list and seeing the recency of almost all of the guys on it. Obviously some great QBs but also some kind of pedestrian guys who clearly weren't going to play much at the next level. It's clear that a lot of this is a function of the way the game has changed, rules have been shifted to favor passing offense, etc.
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
6478 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:48 am to
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Yes, you lying dipshit.

But this...

quote:

1 Tua Tagovailoa 206.9 2019 Alabama
2 Joe Burrow* 204.6 2019 LSU
3 Tua Tagovailoa* 199.4 2018 Alabama



Is the single season rankings and you are full of shite.

The correct single season rankings, according to your link...

1 Joe Burrow* 204.6 2019 LSU
2 Tua Tagovailoa* 199.4 2018 Alabama


are you so ignorant you can't understand a simple point?

The website evidently requires 325 completions for single season and/or career pass efficiency statistics. Tua's injury cut short his season, so though his pass efficiency stats were listed during the season, up until a week ago in fact, the new listing doesn't count his 2019 season because he didn't play enough to complete 325 passes. So, a week ago the single season record stats were as noted, and Tua had posted the
#1 single season record stats for 2019, Joe Burrow was 2nd for 2019, and Tua's 2018 stats were #3.

1 Tua Tagovailoa 206.9 2019 Alabama
2 Joe Burrow* 204.6 2019 LSU
3 Tua Tagovailoa* 199.4 2018 Alabama

I copied that last week and saved it. Whether you believe me or not is of no consequence. Makes no difference, one jot nor tittle. The new single season stats don't even include Tua's 2019 season. Why? Because he didn't complete 325 passes to be included for this season. Do you still not understand?

Now, the career stats are for all the years that player played. It's a different category but evidently the minimum number of completions, 325, is the same. So though Tua's injury precluded him from playing enough this season to qualify for season ending stats, he did complete the minimum number in his career, as did Joe Burrow, and those stats are as noted below...

Leaders
Since 1956 Share & more

Rk Player Rate From To School
1 Tua Tagovailoa* 199.4 2017 2019 Alabama
2 Kyler Murray* 181.3 2015 2018 Oklahoma
3 Sam Bradford* 175.6 2007 2009 Oklahoma
4 Baker Mayfield* 175.4 2013 2017 Oklahoma
5 Dwayne Haskins* 174 2017 2018 Ohio State
6 Joe Burrow* 172.2 2015 2019 LSU
7 Marcus Mariota* 171.8 2012 2014 Oregon
8 Tim Tebow* 170.8 2006 2009 Florida
9 Kellen Moore* 169 2008 2011 Boise State
10 Ryan Dinwiddie* 168.9 2000 2003 Boise State

LINK

And just for good measure, here are ESPN stats for 2019 pass efficiency. Evidently they don't require the same number of attempts or completions as the other site.

College Football Player Passing Stats 2019
Offense


Passing Stats -

1
Tua TagovailoaALA
2
Joe BurrowLSU
3
Jalen HurtsOKLA
4
Justin FieldsOSU
5
Tanner MorganMINN
6
Tyler HuntleyUTAH
7
Trevor LawrenceCLEM
8
Layne HatcherARST
9
Kedon SlovisUSC
10
Brady WhiteMEM

ESPN

No amount of spin will change the fact that Tua's career pass efficiency is better than Burrows, and Tua's 2019 pass efficiency was better than Burrows, in spite of the fact his injury precluded him from playing enough to qualify for the season ending category, which is why his 2018 stats are there but his 2019 stats are not.


Jeeze fellow. It's not rocket science
This post was edited on 1/6/20 at 9:50 am
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
6478 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:52 am to
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How many titles did he lead Bama to?


Probably the most celebrated national title game ever. In case you missed it, this was a walk off title winning td



Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
6478 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:56 am to
hey, wait a minute. The ESPN link shows Tua and Burrow with exactly the same rating as the copy I saved. I had thought it was calculated differently, but it's the same and it shows Tua with a rating of 206.9 and Burrow with a rating of 204.6.

click me click me click me

Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Member since Dec 2019
52493 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 9:59 am to
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Probably the most celebrated national title game ever. In case you missed it, this was a walk off title winning td 

Did he lead them there?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52493 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:02 am to
Confused as to why you keep listing this

quote:

1 Tua Tagovailoa 206.9 2019 Alabama 
2 Joe Burrow* 204.6 2019 LSU 
3 Tua Tagovailoa* 199.4 2018 Alabama 


When it doesnt count?
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
6478 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:02 am to
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Did he lead them there?


Tua won that national title . Jalen was like 3 of 8 for 21 yards and 0 points in the first half and he never started another game for Alabama. You can try to spin it away all you want to. It makes no difference to me.
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
6478 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:04 am to
quote:

1 Tua Tagovailoa 206.9 2019 Alabama
2 Joe Burrow* 204.6 2019 LSU
3 Tua Tagovailoa* 199.4 2018 Alabama



When it doesnt count?


hmmm. Seems it counts to ESPN.

call them to complain about it. Rent a billboard
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
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Member since Dec 2013
35930 posts
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:04 am to
The main difference between Joe and Tuna?


13.5 inches.


45lbs.



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