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Tua had a horrible game before the Heisman voting

Posted on 12/8/18 at 8:59 pm
Posted by CatsGoneWild
Pigeon forge, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2008
13296 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 8:59 pm
Voters remember.
LF7 had a bad game vs Bama, while Henry played good in front of a national audience. Henry won Heisman. It didn't matter that fournette had a great season. It mattered that he had few yards when it mattered. The Georgia vs Alabama game was the most-watched game on TV for the year and Tua did bad. Thus, Murray got the award
This post was edited on 12/8/18 at 9:05 pm
Posted by gobama111
Texas
Member since Mar 2013
183 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:01 pm to
It really is that simple,congrats to Murray,he had an incredible year,I don't think they would have been wrong if any of the 3 had won.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:02 pm to
That and Murray was the difference in wins and losses for his team while the only difference Tua made is running the score up.
Posted by cmayes56
Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
2843 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:02 pm to
Henry rushed for over 2000 yards...lol the most in SEC history.. His season was little better than Fornettes
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64955 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:04 pm to
quote:

Murray was the difference in wins and losses for his team


They will be saying the same thing about X QB next year when he's putting up video game stats in Norman next season as well. When Timmy Chang and Case Keenum were lighting up defenses earlier in the century, most Heisman voters realized that it was the system and not the player. It's a shame they have forgotten that.

Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:06 pm to
quote:

Tua had a horrible game before the Heisman voting
Voters remember.
LF7 had a bad game vs Bama,


I can't remember. What play was it in the first qtr that LF1.9 got hurt impacting his performance?
Posted by CatsGoneWild
Pigeon forge, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2008
13296 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:08 pm to
I agree. It's a system in Oklahoma. They rack up yards against non defensive teams. I remember when Jason white won the Heisman and he didn't even get drafted
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40831 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:09 pm to
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LF7 had a bad game vs Bama,


And a bad game against Arkansas and Mississippi...
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
24345 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:11 pm to
The things that hurt Tua

Playing 200 less snaps.
Injuries
Playing awful the last game of the season.

People voted on performance rather than what could have been. As much as I love Tua. You vote on what's right and what has happened not what could have been. IMO
Posted by Bumpndnite
Hoover
Member since Feb 2012
132 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:17 pm to
Fournette didn't have a bad game against Bama, the LSU OL had a bad game against the Bama front seven.

When you get down to it, the Heisman is a ridiculous trophy. It is comparing players from different parts of the country, in different conferences, etc., etc.. Football is probably the most "team" game in existence, and singling out one player out of thousands of participants will always be questioned.

That being said, I'm interested in seeing how Murray does against a top tier defense. i guarantee he would not have lit up the Georgia team that was playing last week. I don't think he'll light up Bama either, but we will get to see, one way or another.
Posted by Tuas Knee
Member since Oct 2018
157 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:17 pm to
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I agree. It's a system in Oklahoma. They rack up yards against non defensive teams. I remember when Jason white won the Heisman and he didn't even get drafted


If I'm Jalen Hurt's dad I'm on the phone with Lincoln Riley yesterday. Probably be sitting there with Tua in New York next year and go from a late round to 1st round draft pick.
Posted by BamaELCo
Alabama
Member since Jun 2012
3210 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 9:30 pm to
Fournette’s terrible game was about 10x worse than Tua’s bad game due to injury.

Nope. I was wrong. It was about a 100x worse.
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
9666 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 10:11 pm to
Spot on. Ingram won his with his SECCG performance in 09. I have no problem with any of the 3 winning it. They were all great thus season. Voters now turn in ballots after the championship games and whoever had a better championship was gonna win it.
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
22925 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 10:15 pm to
Incorrect. He had a bad first half and was killing UGA in the second half before he got hurt.
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 10:23 pm to
quote:

The things that hurt Tua

Playing 200 less snaps.
Injuries
Playing awful the last game of the season.


...and Jalen Hurts coming in and being fantastic.

Without Murray, otoh, OU would almost certainly not be in the playoffs. And yes, I know it isn't an MVP award. But I'd bet a lot of voters had that thought.
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