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re: True or false: Nick Chubb pre-injury was the best SEC RB of the 2000s
Posted on 11/23/20 at 10:24 am to diddlydawg7
Posted on 11/23/20 at 10:24 am to diddlydawg7
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Therefore, we look at his stats in his first 17 games, and compare them to everyone else’s career stats.
Right. So it’s basically who had the best 17 game stretch.
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Posted on 11/23/20 at 10:25 am to atlanta917
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Right. So it’s basically who had the best 17 game stretch.
No.
Are you seriously the only one who doesn’t understand this?
Posted on 11/23/20 at 10:26 am to diddlydawg7
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Had 2 yards in that game
My point is, they had the talent. Bama's best ball carrier was a small true freshman named Terry Grant. Who after the season was hardly ever seen again. Advantage Arkansas.
Posted on 11/23/20 at 10:27 am to diddlydawg7
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No
Yes. If any back had a better 17 game stretch then they were the better back.
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Are you seriously the only one who doesn’t understand this?
Seems like you aren’t getting it. If a different back was better in a 17 game stretch than Chubb, how are they not better?
Posted on 11/23/20 at 10:29 am to diddlydawg7
Bama's starting DL of Reed, Robinson, Allen and Payne wasn't in the game. Damn, that is one hell of a staring DL.
Tomlinson and #9 Hand were backups.
Like I said, Bama shut down Chubb until a garbage time long TD with the backups in made his stats look good. Henry outrushed him that day too.
Tomlinson and #9 Hand were backups.
Like I said, Bama shut down Chubb until a garbage time long TD with the backups in made his stats look good. Henry outrushed him that day too.
This post was edited on 11/23/20 at 10:32 am
Posted on 11/23/20 at 10:31 am to remaster916
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Henry outrushed him that day too.
Oh wow!
Let chubb rush against our defense with bamas ol and Henry rush against bamas defense with our ol and I'm sure the results would be similar.
Posted on 11/23/20 at 10:33 am to diddlydawg7
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All stats Chubb pre-injury
So you’re only counting Henry’s stats before Chubb got hurt? Why? Did Chubb’s injury somehow have an effect on Henry’s career too?
Posted on 11/23/20 at 10:34 am to ThereGoesHerschel
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Let chubb rush against our defense with bamas ol and Henry rush against bamas defense with our ol and I'm sure the results would be similar.
That offensive line was Ryan Kelly, Cam Robinson and a bunch of guys who no longer play football.
LT - Cam Robinson
LG - Arie Kouandjo
C - Ryan Kelly
RG - Leon Brown
RT - Austin Shepherd
This post was edited on 11/23/20 at 10:36 am
Posted on 11/23/20 at 10:35 am to ThereGoesHerschel
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Oh wow!
Let chubb rush against our defense with bamas ol and Henry rush against bamas defense with our ol and I'm sure the results would be similar.
What makes you think Mark Richt would have known what to do with Derrick Henry? Unless you want us to give you our coaches too. That's so dawg-like.
Posted on 11/23/20 at 10:35 am to Tornado Alley
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LSU - Vincent, Addai, Broussard, Hill, Fournette, Guice,
Oh heavens no. Clyde and Charles Scott had much better careers than both of those guys. Jacob Hester too
This post was edited on 11/23/20 at 10:36 am
Posted on 11/23/20 at 10:36 am to bamameister
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What makes you think Mark Richt would have known what to do with Derrick Henry?
He recruited Henry at RB and had success with Gurley, Chubb, Michel, and others. lol why do you think Richt could have success with Gurley, but not Henry? Acting like players can only have success at Bama is very bama-like.
This post was edited on 11/23/20 at 10:37 am
Posted on 11/23/20 at 10:37 am to SummerOfGeorge
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That offensive line was Ryan Kelly, Cam Robinson and a bunch of guys who no longer play football.
So?
Georgia’s 2015 OL was a freshman Isaiah Wynn and a bunch of guys who no longer play football.
LT- John Theus
LG- Isaiah Wynn
C- Brandon Kublanow
RG- Greg Pyke
RT- Kolton Houston
This post was edited on 11/23/20 at 10:40 am
Posted on 11/23/20 at 10:41 am to diddlydawg7
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So?
So, it wasn't like it was some dominant unit as the poster I was responding to inferred. Our offensive lines between 2013-2017 were not the strength they were in 2009-2012 or 2017-today.
This post was edited on 11/23/20 at 10:45 am
Posted on 11/23/20 at 10:44 am to lsufball19
Chubb's First 18 Games (through 2015 Alabama)
18 games
310 attempts
2,292 yards
7.39 YPA
21 TD
1 TD every 14.76 attempts
Henry's last 3 games of 2014 and 2015 Season
18 games
433 attempts
2,527 yards
5.84 YPA
32 TD
1 TD every 13.53 attempts
Pretty insane stuff. I wonder who else would even match up? I guess Fournette, maybe, but we all know the splits there between bad teams and good ones.
18 games
310 attempts
2,292 yards
7.39 YPA
21 TD
1 TD every 14.76 attempts
Henry's last 3 games of 2014 and 2015 Season
18 games
433 attempts
2,527 yards
5.84 YPA
32 TD
1 TD every 13.53 attempts
Pretty insane stuff. I wonder who else would even match up? I guess Fournette, maybe, but we all know the splits there between bad teams and good ones.
This post was edited on 11/23/20 at 10:46 am
Posted on 11/23/20 at 10:45 am to diddlydawg7
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Georgia’s 2015 OL was a freshman Isaiah Wynn and a bunch of guys who no longer play football.
LT- John Theus
LG- Isaiah Wynn
C- Brandon Kublanow
RG- Greg Pyke
RT- Kolton Houston
Kublanow and Theus were All-SEC players in 2015
Posted on 11/23/20 at 10:46 am to SummerOfGeorge
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So, it wasn't like it was some dominant unit as the poster I was responding to inferred.
He never said they were dominant, just that Bama’s was much better. Which is true.
John Theus- 5th round pick
Greg Pyke- Undrafted
Kublanow- Undrafted
Isaiah Wynn- 1st round pick (was actually terrible that year)
Kolton Houston- Undrafted
Cam Robinson- 2nd round pick
Arie Kouandijo- 4th round pick
Ryan Kelly- 1st round pick
Leon Brown- Undrafted
Austin Shepherd- 7th round pick
Posted on 11/23/20 at 10:48 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Pretty insane stuff. I wonder who else would even match up? I guess Fournette, maybe, but we all know the splits there between bad teams and good ones.
Fournette’s splits against good teams were largely exaggerated IMO. They weren’t as impressive as Henry’s obviously, but the only game Fournette got shut down was Alabama. Regardless, no one compares to that run or comes even close other than Fournette.
Posted on 11/23/20 at 10:51 am to lsufball19
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Kublanow and Theus were All-SEC players in 2015
Kublanow was 2nd team behind Kelly and Theus was 1st team but got less votes than Cam Robinson.
This post was edited on 11/23/20 at 10:58 am
Posted on 11/23/20 at 10:51 am to diddlydawg7
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He never said they were dominant, just that Bama’s was much better.
Our 2015 offensive line was bad for the first 2 months of the season, and along with the rest of the offense found their identity as a road grading unit that wore teams down by November (part of that being the emergence of Ross Piersbachler).
I also beefed that up and posted our 2014 line
Our 2015 line was
LT - Cam Robinson
LG - Ross Pierschbacher (FR)
C - Ryan Kelly
RG - Alphonse Taylor
RT - Dom Jackson
I'm not pompous enough to pretend to remember the specifics of Georgia's 2015 offensive line, but I know they had a 1st Team all-conference LT and a 2nd team all-conference C, along with a true freshmen who turned into a 1st round pick.
This post was edited on 11/23/20 at 10:58 am
Posted on 11/23/20 at 10:52 am to lsufball19
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Fournette’s splits against good teams were largely exaggerated IMO. They weren’t as impressive as Henry’s obviously, but the only game Fournette got shut down was Alabama. Regardless, no one compares to that run or comes even close other than Fournette.
It wasn't that he was bad vs good teams, it's that his stats were insane against terrible teams. I think that is what kind of gets lost in that split discussion (and obviously used by people with an agenda).
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