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Troll free discussion of where Bama is right now and what direction they may be headed.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 7:26 am
Posted on 11/25/24 at 7:26 am
I'll provide some basic context. Like it or not Bama has been the literal spine of the SEC for over a decade. It was on their backs the "SEC, SEC" chants that filled the bowl games wins were echoed. Coaches upon coaches were hired and fired throughout the league all for the sake of competing with Saban. This quest to compete with Saban elevated the coaching of the entire conference, and the SEC unarguable has the best stable of coaches bar none, in all of college football.
There's probably never been a coach who inherited a team as talented as Bama. KB literally took over a gold mine. He then went on to lose to the 2 weakest teams on his schedule and it wasn't just the losses, but the way he lost which was shocking. Vandy and Oklahoma literally out-souled Bama.
For the sake of the SEC one of two things needs to happen: 1) Bama needs to right the ship and/or 2) another team (other teams) need to step into the void. Honestly as of right now there's not a team in the SEC who hasn't looked schizophrenic so it remains to be seen what will happen, but this schizophrenia coupled with last years BIG 10 win of the Title, has allowed that conference to seize the momentum. That can't be allowed to stand. What say you?
There's probably never been a coach who inherited a team as talented as Bama. KB literally took over a gold mine. He then went on to lose to the 2 weakest teams on his schedule and it wasn't just the losses, but the way he lost which was shocking. Vandy and Oklahoma literally out-souled Bama.
For the sake of the SEC one of two things needs to happen: 1) Bama needs to right the ship and/or 2) another team (other teams) need to step into the void. Honestly as of right now there's not a team in the SEC who hasn't looked schizophrenic so it remains to be seen what will happen, but this schizophrenia coupled with last years BIG 10 win of the Title, has allowed that conference to seize the momentum. That can't be allowed to stand. What say you?
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 7:29 am to SemperFiDawg
DeBoer was given the keys to a Ferrari and promptly backed into a lamppost
Posted on 11/25/24 at 7:29 am to olddawg26
DeBoer isn’t the guy. It’ll get worse as Sabans players leave
Posted on 11/25/24 at 7:45 am to olddawg26
The one unequivocal fact of the matter is those two losses would never had happened under Saban. They just wouldn't have. With the season winding down and having the advantage of hindsight I wonder at some point in the transition to KB, either before the season or early on in the season, some of the senior players forsook the "team first" mentality and decided instead to act in their individual best interest. I say this, because the team hasn't consistently functioned as One, but instead a collection of subsets.
I don't know. Maybe I'm reading too much into the tea leaves. Our team has looked the same at times this year, but I never got the impression the Dogs weren't all at least marching toward the same goal. With Bama I do get that impression, right or wrong.
I don't know. Maybe I'm reading too much into the tea leaves. Our team has looked the same at times this year, but I never got the impression the Dogs weren't all at least marching toward the same goal. With Bama I do get that impression, right or wrong.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 7:49 am to Draco Malfoy
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DeBoer isn’t the guy
I think it's too early to make that call.
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It’ll get worse as Sabans players leave
Conversely it could get better if the reason for the perceived riff is Saban's players being the one's not buying into the system. As KB stocks the cabinet with his players I could see it gelling and improving. I will say this. I don't know for a fact Milroe is the problem if there is a division within the team, but one thing is obvious: he's not the solution.
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 7:54 am
Posted on 11/25/24 at 7:52 am to SemperFiDawg
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SEC for over a decade. It was on their backs the "SEC, SEC" chants that filled the bowl games wins were echoed.
What a dumbass. This chant was at Les Miles 07 title which was in between urban Meyer Florida. If you want to give credit to Saban he did a lot for the conference getting lsu up and running but Tennessee and Florida were both dominate in the late 90s early 2000s as well.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 7:52 am to SemperFiDawg
You can look in Deboers face and tell he is in over his head. He knows it. Its cool to come out of nowhere at Washington with a good season where it isnt expected. But to come to a school like Bama where championships are expected every year its a different animal. He will be gone by 2027.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 7:52 am to SemperFiDawg
DeBoer isn’t the guy. The job is likely way too big for him.
I suppose give him a couple of years but it seems him and Milroe do not like each other very much.
I suppose give him a couple of years but it seems him and Milroe do not like each other very much.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 7:54 am to SemperFiDawg
I think Bama will still be near the top of the conference for a while. But not dominant as with Saban. But TBH even if Saban were there i dont think Bama would be as dominant as they had been, due to NIL and the portal. I think this is why Saban left , He already saw the impact of NIL and portal and the lack of dominance by Bama.
Those glory days are over. Bama will be very good then in a year when they have an older more experienced OL and a great defense and an error free QB they can win it all.
As far as current direction IDK i am not informed enough about Bama to tell you their direction. Generally teams need more pain before finding the right path.
Those glory days are over. Bama will be very good then in a year when they have an older more experienced OL and a great defense and an error free QB they can win it all.
As far as current direction IDK i am not informed enough about Bama to tell you their direction. Generally teams need more pain before finding the right path.
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 7:55 am to SemperFiDawg
It's one thing to lose to good teams with Alabama's roster. It's a completely different animal to lose to bad teams with Alabama's roster. He won't be fired this year but he will be on a very hot seat next season.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 7:56 am to AlextheBodacious
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What a dumbass.
Yeah, I'm not even gonna...
Posted on 11/25/24 at 7:56 am to SemperFiDawg
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For the sake of the SEC one of two things needs to happen: 1) Bama needs to right the ship
Posted on 11/25/24 at 7:57 am to Zgeo
It didnt matter who they hired. No one will be nick saban. They will still be good and have better years. Top half of sec. But now, they are just like every other top half of sec team. No one fears them anymore. Their spoiled fans have a harsh reality waiting. 9-3 seasons will be the norm
Posted on 11/25/24 at 7:59 am to SemperFiDawg
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Yeah, I'm not even gonna...
Cuz you got nothing. Dawg chow!
Posted on 11/25/24 at 8:00 am to SemperFiDawg
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There's probably never been a coach who inherited a team as talented as Bama. KB literally took over a gold mine
Bama isn't nearly as talented as ya'll proclaim them to be. There are no Will Andersons or Bryce Youngs on this team. Go back & look at the recruiting classes - there's a ton of highly rated busts in there. They busted under Saban & now busting under Deboer. You can't hardly find one player who has outperformed their recruiting ranking.
Still, Deboer could end up 10-3 this season which isn't bad for a coach's first year. He probably would have made the playoffs if he had a competent QB.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 8:01 am to SemperFiDawg
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For the sake of the SEC
Oh, please …. nobody gives AF about the SEC, they care only about their own program
Posted on 11/25/24 at 8:02 am to SemperFiDawg
i said it when he was hired, DeBoer is an unknown commodity as an FBS HC
he has never been in a situation where he was expected to perform at a high level, nor has he ever stuck around long enough to put in “his system” whatever the hell that is supposed to be
he’ll probably get to 10 wins this year by virtue of playing a Freezus-coached AU squad at home and ending up in some NY6 bowl against the ACC/B12 runner up (although opt-outs will likely be plentiful in that scenario) and have a top 5 recruiting class and that will somewhat mollify his loudest critics
but i doubt there will be much patience from the Bama GOBN if he misses the playoffs again in 2025
and i wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to have some behind the scenes meddling by major boosters to “fix” the coaching staff this offseason
and we all know how well that goes
he has never been in a situation where he was expected to perform at a high level, nor has he ever stuck around long enough to put in “his system” whatever the hell that is supposed to be
he’ll probably get to 10 wins this year by virtue of playing a Freezus-coached AU squad at home and ending up in some NY6 bowl against the ACC/B12 runner up (although opt-outs will likely be plentiful in that scenario) and have a top 5 recruiting class and that will somewhat mollify his loudest critics
but i doubt there will be much patience from the Bama GOBN if he misses the playoffs again in 2025
and i wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to have some behind the scenes meddling by major boosters to “fix” the coaching staff this offseason
and we all know how well that goes
Posted on 11/25/24 at 8:03 am to olddawg26
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DeBoer was given the keys to a Ferrari
Was he though? That roster was gutted when Saban left. And while they brought in talent it’s talent that hasn’t worked together. DeBoer is not Saban so some adjustments were expected. He runs a soft player oriented program with players that were not use to it. And he only missed Sabans mark by a game.
Now as to the future. DeBoer is not the guy. He lacked the experience, the connections in the game that come with experience, and will not be successful at Bama unless something serious changes. But that was the same opinion I had with the same reasons last year.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 8:07 am to SemperFiDawg
The problem isn’t CKD. it’s the problem affecting all of college football. Unrestricted Nil and players 17-23 making 2-15 million from Alumni and corporations seeking representation for their products.
Look at your own school. Georgia was the heir apparent to Sabans Dynasty and look at you? You are very good but no Dynasty.
I agree, no SEC team is stellar. It will remain that way.
I bet the minute Ryan Williams enters the portal he’ll have his agent negotiating a $10 mil plus deal somewhere else.
The problem today is a coach like Saban can’t demand discipline and accountability from his players.
If CKD or Coach Smart coached a player like in the past, they’re gone.
The inmates are running the asylum.
Bama is never going to be like it was under Saban again. It was an unbelievable run I’ll never forget.
Look at your own school. Georgia was the heir apparent to Sabans Dynasty and look at you? You are very good but no Dynasty.
I agree, no SEC team is stellar. It will remain that way.
I bet the minute Ryan Williams enters the portal he’ll have his agent negotiating a $10 mil plus deal somewhere else.
The problem today is a coach like Saban can’t demand discipline and accountability from his players.
If CKD or Coach Smart coached a player like in the past, they’re gone.
The inmates are running the asylum.
Bama is never going to be like it was under Saban again. It was an unbelievable run I’ll never forget.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 8:09 am to Smokeyone
If they are willing to give him time, I think freeze will have auburn in prime position to take Bamas place. Laugh all you want, but it's happening.
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