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re: Tragedy in Athens: OL Devin Willock and staffer Chandler Lecroy have passed away.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 4:15 pm to ScoggDog
Posted on 1/15/23 at 4:15 pm to ScoggDog
Give the people the benefit of the doubt and shut the frick up. If it comes out there was booze involved, it will be known fairly soon.
This shouldn’t be that hard.
This shouldn’t be that hard.
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Posted on 1/15/23 at 4:48 pm to ScoggDog
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1 - the constant drone now, on social media, to emote. Nobody here knew any of these kids. Just like nobody knew that dude that collapsed on the field two weeks ago. Yet - it's a race. Who can emote the strongest ? Who can gin up some kind of personal connection, to people they don't know, regarding an event that happens every damn day.
I knew Willock and know McClendon only from their play on the field and didn't know LeCroy or know the other recruiting staffer at all, but it only takes the barest layer of simple human compassion to realize how much pain their families and close acquaintances are in today.
Also, if their loss does not make one realize how ephemeral our existence in this world is and take stock of one's own life, then there is a lack of empathy there that usually does not bode well for the one lacking it or the people in that one's immediate vicinity.
This post was edited on 1/15/23 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 1/15/23 at 5:20 pm to ScoggDog
You sir can comeback all you want, but most everyone on this thread has responded with decency, grace, compassion, honor and respect for a bad situation....offering prayers and condolences. I'm very proud of all posters of every fanbase that have done this. You, on the other hand, along with this other fellow are just an embarrassment and have acted without decency or maturity or any of those things that I mentioned.
I started to make the comment that I bet you are a bitter, angry person that has no friends. But then I would just be lashing out and judging you, just as you have judged these deceased kids that died tragically and that would bring me down to your level. So...I retract that and simply say; You've been out of line and inappropriate, and I'll pray for you. God bless
I started to make the comment that I bet you are a bitter, angry person that has no friends. But then I would just be lashing out and judging you, just as you have judged these deceased kids that died tragically and that would bring me down to your level. So...I retract that and simply say; You've been out of line and inappropriate, and I'll pray for you. God bless
Posted on 1/15/23 at 5:38 pm to Darindawg
He’s quadrupled down on stupidity at this point. Just ignore him. He’s getting the attention he wants.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 5:46 pm to deeprig9
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If it turns out that it wasn't alcohol related, will you eat crow? Will you apologize for jumping to conclusions?
I'll say my first guess was wrong, for sure. And it doesn't make those kids any more or less right or wrong if beer or whiskey was drank before they died. Drunk or sober. Which is not my point.
And either way ... even if everybody in that car was sober ? I wouldn't want my daughter driving that car ... just shy of three in the morning. Nothing good happens after midnight. No matter how many opine to the opposite.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 5:50 pm to ScoggDog
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Since you took it here ... not whining in the slightest. Observing. Observing two things.
1 - the constant drone now, on social media, to emote. Nobody here knew any of these kids. Just like nobody knew that dude that collapsed on the field two weeks ago. Yet - it's a race. Who can emote the strongest ? Who can gin up some kind of personal connection, to people they don't know, regarding an event that happens every damn day.
2 - the constant urge now, on social media, to regulate who may say what and when.
Bitch all you want - I won't change. I certainly won't change noticing the immediate reaction, by the same people, every damn time anything happens - to first run out and post the most flowery Peggy Newnan like speech regarding an event they were no part of, regarding people they've never met. And then - to start trying to decide what may or may not be said regarding the topic.
All the original guy noted - that got all of you bitching - was the obvious. Four college kids in a van, just shy of 3:00 AM. Odds are, it was alcohol related. And if my daughter WASN'T drinking ? I sure as shite wouldn't want her out at 3:00 AM giving a ride to three ball players that were.
That "drone" on social media... that's been around long before social media. It's called cultural norms and mores. It's a necessary part of regulating behavior in any society.
It's why people don't say out loud "That kid deserved to die" when a child is killed. It doesn't matter how true it might be... you just don't fricking say stuff like that. If you do, the members of society will castigate you.
What you have is an entitlement. You think because you're online and you post under a pseudonymn, you can say stuff that our society wouldn't accept you saying out loud. It's not others correcting your assholish statements on social media who are the problem... it's your entitled arse.
You don't have to change... but you are an a-hole, and it's not the people pointing out your being an a-hole that are the issue. It's you feeling you have the right to act that way because you're anonymous online.
I hate social media to be honest... but not because of people "emoting". I hate it because assholes feel like they have some right to be an a-hole now. Because the people commenting aren't people you know in real life, you feel free to act like a jerk rather than like a polite human being. But you have to realize that the people in your church, your neighborhood or your work... they would think you're horrible if you said this stuff to them as well. You just won't because you're a coward.
Instead of trying to be some sort of internet free speech activist... how about acting like a decent member of humanity? Just because you have the freedom to act like a jerk... doesn't mean you should. And it doesn't mean we can't call you out on it.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 5:52 pm to DawgCountry
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He’s quadrupled down on stupidity at this point. Just ignore him. He’s getting the attention he wants.
Quite the opposite. Ignore what I said. Literally.
Do not reply to what I stated.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 5:55 pm to DawginSC
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What you have is an entitlement. You think because you're online and you post under a pseudonymn, you can say stuff that our society wouldn't accept you saying out loud. It's not others correcting your assholish statements on social media who are the problem... it's your entitled arse.
"This is not the time or place" is the kind of thing you say to your kids. Not grown men.
This is exactly the kind of discussion that keeps me online. Because the hypocrisy has to be seen to be believed.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 5:56 pm to GalacticaCannon
You should probably just stop.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 5:56 pm to DawgCountry
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He’s quadrupled down on stupidity at this point. Just ignore him. He’s getting the attention he wants.
Some people love the fact they can be assholes online without anyone in real life knowing they're an a-hole.
I think it likely has something to do with low self esteem due to penis envy.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 5:59 pm to ScoggDog
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"This is not the time or place" is the kind of thing you say to your kids. Not grown men.
This is exactly the kind of discussion that keeps me online. Because the hypocrisy has to be seen to be believed.
"Don't be an a-hole" is something most adults still need to hear today because they didn't get their asses kicked for being an a-hole enough as kids.
I include you in that category. Don't be an a-hole.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 6:07 pm to DawginSC
The self-aggrandizing about tragedy is such a weird thing. People offering their thoughts and prayers is devoid of meaning in an online platform. It does little but serve the person saying it so they can feel like good, upstanding citizens.
Funny how it’s most often in the context of trivialization in sports.
Tragedy happens daily. You all aren’t prostrating yourselves before your Gods for everyday Athens obits, those suffering in Chinese camps, or Ukrainians dying or Russians forced to March or die. No. You pick and choose your moments to flock to tragedy to feel good about yourselves.
It’s fricking weird. And it’s unhealthy to be so involved in these tragedies.
What I saw was this:
Another group of kids out late at night driving and ending up dead in a ditch in a vehicle.
And the reasons are usually preventable ones.
1. Alcohol
2. Partying into the wee hours and driving while falling asleep
3. Speeding and general unsafe driving practices
Maybe it was some of them, maybe it was none of them. But there have been thousands if not hundreds of thousands the world over incoming the above three to make it highly likely.
It’s more about apathy because “same shite, different day” vibes. All the crying about respect and time and place? Means little that yet more youths were wiped from the earth as a result of a vehicle most don’t respect.
People are fricking psychos on the roads around me in the last two years as they’ve returned to their lives. Usually in some mad rush to get to their places a mere two minutes faster than they would obeying the laws on the road.
My sympathies will start again when these tragedies are an absolute rarity than the seeming norm they’ve been for ages.
Funny how it’s most often in the context of trivialization in sports.
Tragedy happens daily. You all aren’t prostrating yourselves before your Gods for everyday Athens obits, those suffering in Chinese camps, or Ukrainians dying or Russians forced to March or die. No. You pick and choose your moments to flock to tragedy to feel good about yourselves.
It’s fricking weird. And it’s unhealthy to be so involved in these tragedies.
What I saw was this:
Another group of kids out late at night driving and ending up dead in a ditch in a vehicle.
And the reasons are usually preventable ones.
1. Alcohol
2. Partying into the wee hours and driving while falling asleep
3. Speeding and general unsafe driving practices
Maybe it was some of them, maybe it was none of them. But there have been thousands if not hundreds of thousands the world over incoming the above three to make it highly likely.
It’s more about apathy because “same shite, different day” vibes. All the crying about respect and time and place? Means little that yet more youths were wiped from the earth as a result of a vehicle most don’t respect.
People are fricking psychos on the roads around me in the last two years as they’ve returned to their lives. Usually in some mad rush to get to their places a mere two minutes faster than they would obeying the laws on the road.
My sympathies will start again when these tragedies are an absolute rarity than the seeming norm they’ve been for ages.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 6:11 pm to DawginSC
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I include you in that category. Don't be an a-hole.
Did it make you feel better ? The "shut up", without looking me in the eye with a shut up, while imagining how you said shut up ?
I think it did. This thread, for better or worse, illustrates modern social media.
Hell ... they should just declare this a "everybody mourns" thread and move on.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 6:13 pm to ScoggDog
Saw down-thread ... a ball-player is charged with murder. Is it too soon ? You tell me, Internet Regulators.
Y'all seem to have all the answers. Who can talk, and when.
Y'all seem to have all the answers. Who can talk, and when.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 6:22 pm to ScoggDog
quote:You have not been regulated at all. You had free reign to make a complete and utter arse of yourself. And you succeeded in spectacular fashion.
Internet Regulators.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 6:28 pm to GalacticaCannon
It seems like your loved one needs to be in something similar, so you can gain a perspective. I hope when something terrible happens to your family, you get angry at everyone who shows sympathy towards you, because terrible things happens all the time.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 6:31 pm to ScoggDog
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ScoggDog
You’ve hijacked this thread to make it all about your opinions. Some of us have friends directly affected by this. Your inability to offer the minimal amount of empathy is pathetic.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 6:31 pm to GalacticaCannon
Again, I applaud those today who have been decent, mature, compassionate, honorable and respectable. You sir are none of those things, just like this other fellow who happens to be the ONLY person on here that agree with anything you've said.
And for the record, this last post of yours was not only wrong, indignant and appalling, it was just...dumb.
And for the record, this last post of yours was not only wrong, indignant and appalling, it was just...dumb.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 6:35 pm to Rex Feral
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Some of us have friends directly affected by this.
See ? There it is. Some folks have to get in the middle of every online story.
Somebody in that crash related to you ? No, they ain't. Because if they were - you wouldn't be here. And if they really WERE related to you ? Then I'd just send flowers and a casserole.
But that's not what this is all about. It's about emoting and scolding. I'd accuse you of being a Millennial - if it wasn't such a Boomer thing.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 6:48 pm to ScoggDog
You don’t have to be a relative to feel the sorrow a friend is feeling.
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