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Posted on 8/11/11 at 11:50 am to Latarian
had a drunk guest piss on my carpet last night so i just couldn't help myself
Posted on 8/11/11 at 11:50 am to Sao
Dyer is good, but i was really surprised at how low Auburns Freshmen rushing record was. I mean it was in the 800s i thin which is nothing to sneeze at but still.
That being he is sorta a wild card to me. 1) he will probably be relied on a lot more without cam 2)I think it is safe to say he benefited hugely from teams focusing on cam as much as they did.
That being he is sorta a wild card to me. 1) he will probably be relied on a lot more without cam 2)I think it is safe to say he benefited hugely from teams focusing on cam as much as they did.
Posted on 8/11/11 at 11:51 am to audodger
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I understand that Ware had a great bowl game, and he should be a good one, but Dyer was MVP of the BCS National Championship game and smashed Auburn's freshman rushing record. I'm not sure how you can put Ware ahead of him.
It's the same reason why Knile isn't getting as much love as he deserves. You have a lot of questions on offense, especially with your o-line.
That being said, I think he shouldn't be included in the top 3 as of now.
I agree with the above that it should be Trent, Knile, and Lattimore. Homerism aside, I think people fail to forget that Knile DID lead the SEC in rushing last season among RBs. Yes, we have some youth on the o-line as well, but with the passing attack that we have under Petrino, it will really open up the field and give our RBs better chances to break some nice runs out, imo.
That being said, my list is:
1. Knile
2. Lattimore
3. Trent
Posted on 8/11/11 at 11:54 am to Sao
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Your subconscious tells you all you need to know.
yep it's telling me ware will have more yardage, ypc, and TDs this season than 9 of the 12 starting running backs in the SEC this year
Posted on 8/11/11 at 11:56 am to AMM AU9893
quote:He'll have a field day on his back?
Boy I hope so. Our QB would have a field day
Did he grow up in a brothel?
Posted on 8/11/11 at 11:59 am to Bzoner
If you had said:
knile
ware
Trent
Everyone would be holding hands in here. AU fans, not sure how you can act like Dyer deserves to be in the argument. He has lost that whole veteran OL and his big arse Qb that opened things up for him. This isn't about best backs, its about most production nextyear.
And arky fans, we know you have a good running back, but the posters could state their case without being dickbags about it. *cough* SAO *cough*
knile
ware
Trent
Everyone would be holding hands in here. AU fans, not sure how you can act like Dyer deserves to be in the argument. He has lost that whole veteran OL and his big arse Qb that opened things up for him. This isn't about best backs, its about most production nextyear.
And arky fans, we know you have a good running back, but the posters could state their case without being dickbags about it. *cough* SAO *cough*
Posted on 8/11/11 at 12:00 pm to bpfergu
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It's the same reason why Knile isn't getting as much love as he deserves. You have a lot of questions on offense, especially with your o-line.
That being said, I think he shouldn't be included in the top 3 as of now.
Our offense produced 30+ points a game in '09. It will score 30+ again this year. Bank on it.
Posted on 8/11/11 at 12:01 pm to Bzoner
Trent, Lattimore, Davis.
Posted on 8/11/11 at 12:03 pm to audodger
quote:with a veteran unit on the OL.
Our offense produced 30+ points a game in '09.
You will put up 30+ a game. . .if you score 70+ in your rent-a-wins.
Posted on 8/11/11 at 12:06 pm to Bzoner
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1,) Marcus Lattimore-will leave USCe as one of the best ever up there with bo, faulk, cadillac, imo and be a top 10 draft pick in 2013
2.) Trent Richardson-Best calves in the SEC since kieland with the potential to match Ingram's production in '09. Also predict him being a high first round lock.
3.) Spencer Ware-After the cotton bowl I was completely sold that he is the real deal and poised for a breakout sophomore season as the #1 back. Showed flashes of brilliance as a true freshmen and could've had lattimore like stats had he not been behind ridley on the depth chart.
If we're talking about just yardage, then this is probably pretty accurate, although I'm not sold on this Ware kid after doing well against a Big12 nondefense.
If we're talking about who is actually the BEST back, I'm going with Trent all day.
Posted on 8/11/11 at 12:12 pm to Teague
quote:I can't formulate a coherent argument against Lattimore as the best back in the SEC.
If we're talking about who is actually the BEST back, I'm going with Trent all day.
I've tried. I have seen all the backs mentioned in this thread. . .but Latt is better than any of them.
Posted on 8/11/11 at 12:13 pm to Roaad
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Our offense produced 30+ points a game in '09.
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with a veteran unit on the OL.
You will put up 30+ a game. . .if you score 70+ in your rent-a-wins.
We had some veteran starters on our o-line in '09, but no depth at all. This year, we will likely start one player with talent and experience, one player with some talent and experience, and a few upper classmen that have backed up one of the best o-lines in the nation last year. Just because they were backups for that o-line, doesn't mean they aren't solid o-linemen. On top of that, we should have solid depth with very talented young guys. With Grimes as their coach, they will perform better than expected, anyway.
Posted on 8/11/11 at 12:19 pm to audodger
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Our offense produced 30+ points a game in '09. It will score 30+ again this year. Bank on it.
And you very well may have a high-scoring offense because of your OC. Enjoy Gus this year because after that he is gone.
That being said, I am not going to magically put Dyer in front of people more deserving given the circumstances around the young o-line and the fact that the other team won't be having to deal with your freak 6'-6" freak quarterback that ya'll bought. I think you are going to quickly realize what a luxury it was to have Cam.
Both Lattimore and and Knile out-rushed Dyer last year. I expect Lattimore to put up even better numbers this year due to the experience returning on that team coupled with being in SEC East.
Knile didn't really turn on until almost halfway into the season, at which time his last 7 games amounted to:
1028 yards
6.425 ypc
12 td
And this wasn't done against cupcakes, either. Over this stretch we played 3 ranked SEC teams along with Ohio State.
Finally, Trent gets to lead Bama's rushing attack backed by their stacked O-line...and let's be honest - Trent is a beast.
Posted on 8/11/11 at 12:25 pm to Bzoner
1. Trent
2. Latt (more so in the fact I have no faith in USCe to be as productive again, they can't handle hype)
3. Davis
4. Ware
5. Dyer (solely because of the young offensive line, otherwise he'd be ahead of Ware)
2. Latt (more so in the fact I have no faith in USCe to be as productive again, they can't handle hype)
3. Davis
4. Ware
5. Dyer (solely because of the young offensive line, otherwise he'd be ahead of Ware)
Posted on 8/11/11 at 12:26 pm to Bzoner
We talking yardage or TDs?
Scoring = Ballard
Scoring = Ballard
Posted on 8/11/11 at 12:28 pm to bpfergu
It really goes both ways. If you're going to put Ware above Dyer because he's the focus of the offense you have to put Davis in front of Ware because like it or not teams will make JJ beat them until he proves to be a competant QB. Plus Davis won't have teams stacking the box against him and he did lead the SEC in rushing in a pass happy offense so he can do it again.
Posted on 8/11/11 at 12:37 pm to bpfergu
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That being said, I am not going to magically put Dyer in front of people more deserving given the circumstances
Let's just completely ignore his production last year, then.
Only other circumstances matter. quote:
around the young o-line
O-line isn't young. They just don't have many starts.
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and the fact that the other team won't be having to deal with your freak 6'-6" freak quarterback
See '09.
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that ya'll bought
Tell me how you really feel.
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Both Lattimore and and Knile out-rushed Dyer last year.
I never said anything about Lattimore or Davis. I said that Ware shouldn't be listed ahead of Dyer. However, if you're going to say that Dyer's numbers were inflated by Cam Newton / last year's o-line, it should be noted that Davis ran the ball when everyone was always expecting Mallett to sling the ball all over the place. His numbers were inflated as much, if not more than Dyer's.
Posted on 8/11/11 at 12:46 pm to Roaad
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I can't formulate a coherent argument against Lattimore as the best back in the SEC.
How about this one:
Yards Per Carry.
Several backs would have had his numbers or better last year if they'd had the same number of carries.
Posted on 8/11/11 at 12:46 pm to Notherdamnhog
1. Knile - if he gets the 20-25 cpg that Petrino mentioned. He led last year, no reason he can't this year unless DJ or Wingo get a bunch of his carries.
2. (tie) Lattimore and Richardson should be neck and neck, about all SC and Bama have in running game and will get lots of carries. Which one ends up 2nd or 3rd could go either way and is too hard to call right now.
2. (tie) Lattimore and Richardson should be neck and neck, about all SC and Bama have in running game and will get lots of carries. Which one ends up 2nd or 3rd could go either way and is too hard to call right now.
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