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re: Tim Tebow confronts Kirby Smart re:WLOCP/Jax...in the end, Tebow concedes Kirby is right!
Posted on 7/25/22 at 7:25 am to WG_Dawg
Posted on 7/25/22 at 7:25 am to WG_Dawg
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this is bigger than our head coach. UGA Football as an overall institution is much, much bigger than kirby, or herschel, or any other individual man. UGA/UF belongs and jacksonville and our head coach thinking it somehow hurts recruiting shouldn't and won't factor into it anyway.
That wasn't the point. The point was that it does affect recruiting. The other poster said it does not. I can easily see where it could. Not saying it definitely does...just saying I can see how it could and even that it probably does.
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Posted on 7/25/22 at 7:26 am to JetDawg
You don’t have to post every stupid article you find.
Posted on 7/25/22 at 7:28 am to DawgsLife
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That wasn't the point. The point was that it does affect recruiting. The other poster said it does not. I can easily see where it could
I guess if you really truly get down to the fine point details you could say it "has an effect", in that it is impacted. But the effect is clearly minimal based on our recdruiting under kirby, and it hasn't really been an issue the last 90 years until now for some reason. And as metnioned by others, if kirby was so hellbent against it because of recruiting we wouldn't have scheduled season openers at neutral sites the past 3 seasons.
ETA: The only 2 things I can think of with kiorby's continual rant on this are:
1) HE wants to scare jacksonville enough to where they'll pony up a crap ton more money to keep it there, whihc they almost surely will
2) he wants whatever bullshite "no hosting recruits" gentlemans areement that exists to go away.
Kirby is from deep south GA, he knows personally how important jacksonville is to the rivalry. IT amkes no sense to move it.
This post was edited on 7/25/22 at 7:30 am
Posted on 7/25/22 at 7:29 am to finchmeister08
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Napier wants to experience it first before making a comment.
There is not arguing that the game is special, and for that reason alone, as a fan, I lean towards it should stay as is.
I have always heard that the Swamp is a unique atmosphere, too, and would be curious to experience that, too.
I rarely go to games. I just hate fighting traffic, crowds, weather etc. I have been to an LSU/Alabama game. (Back in the 70s) and to a GT/Wake Forest game. (in the 80s) Interestingly enough, I have never been to a Georgia game.
I do watch every single one of them on tv, though.Posted on 7/25/22 at 7:32 am to WG_Dawg
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I guess if you really truly get down to the fine point details you could say it "has an effect", in that it is impacted. But the effect is clearly minimal based on our recdruiting under kirby, and it hasn't really been an issue the last 90 years until now for some reason.
But there is no definitive way of knowing this, is there? I mean we can't tell how many recruits may (or may not) have been lost.
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And as metnioned by others, if kirby was so hellbent against it because of recruiting we wouldn't have scheduled season openers at neutral sites the past 3 seasons.
I don't think that is the only reason. I just think it is one of the reasons. Most of the neutral site games are games that would not be played if not played at a neutral site. (Although, it seems odd that the Clemson game was at a neutral site last year considering we have done home and homes before)
Posted on 7/25/22 at 7:33 am to WG_Dawg
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1) HE wants to scare jacksonville enough to where they'll pony up a crap ton more money to keep it there, whihc they almost surely will
I agree with this. It's a negotiating ploy.
Posted on 7/25/22 at 7:38 am to DawgsLife
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But there is no definitive way of knowing this, is there? I mean we can't tell how many recruits may (or may not) have been lost.
considering we've hauled in a top 4 class the last 5 years, with more being ranked 1/2 than ranked 3/4, I think we can say the impact has been minimal. If we were ranking in the 30s or something sure it'd be more of a debate, but are we really going to try to dissect how we may have gone from a 3rd ranked clas to a 2nd ranked class if we had 1 more weekend?
I highly doubt guys that don't come here are doing so because they didn't get to see us play that game at home. And what's often overlooked in this is that eveyr other year we have to go to gainesville. It's such a negligble change in exchange for 1 extra weekend.
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I don't think that is the only reason. I just think it is one of the reasons. Most of the neutral site games are games that would not be played if not played at a neutral site
but again, kirby makes it sounds like the sole reason we need to move from jax is to get 1 extra recruting weekend. We've played colorado, arizona state, OkSt, and clemson home and home this century. We've had H/H scheduled wiht Oregon and Ohio State that were canceled, and have/had future H/H scheduled with OU/Texas/FSU/UCLA that who knows how those stand anymroe. The point is that you can schedule a marquee game and not HAVE to have it be at a netural site.
Posted on 7/25/22 at 7:40 am to DawgsLife
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I agree with this. It's a negotiating ploy.
I can't remember the numbers but I recall seeing before that both schools make FAR more moeny with this arrangement than they would if it were home and home. I can see kirby wanting to get even more money to keep it there but it seems a strnage way to go about it. Seemsl ike him and Brooks could just get on the horn with high ranking jacksonville poeple adn hash this out rather than constantly spewing this in the media and getting the fanbase riled up.
Posted on 7/25/22 at 7:46 am to WG_Dawg
It was Chip Towers. UGA's made $45 million over the past 10 years with it being in Jax. Only $19 million if it was in Athens every other year.
Posted on 7/25/22 at 7:47 am to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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UGA's made $45 million over the past 10 years with it being in Jax. Only $19 million if it was in Athens every other year.
Kirby is ultra hyper focused on recruiting, but surely he can realize that an extra $20M in revenue can buy a whoooole lot of stuff to devote towards recruiting.
Posted on 7/25/22 at 7:51 am to WG_Dawg
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Seemsl ike him and Brooks could just get on the horn with high ranking jacksonville poeple adn hash this out rather than constantly spewing this in the media and getting the fanbase riled up.
It seems like even the (seemingly)simplest negotiations can turn into the most complicated. Seems odd. Maybe everybody just likes the drama, or they dig their heels in on simple things?
Posted on 7/25/22 at 7:54 am to JetDawg
It blows my mind that people think this is a long article.
My goodness how dumb have we become that we can't read a few paragraphs?
My goodness how dumb have we become that we can't read a few paragraphs?
Posted on 7/25/22 at 8:12 am to DawgsLife
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So why are Florida fans so adamant about it being help in JAX outside of tradition
So I don’t know if this is for sure.. but I do know that one of the largest UGA booster clubs is in Jacksonville and I think the largest UF booster club is there as well….
The distance brought up does not affect the players. It’s the same time of travel., 1 by air , 1 by bus…. So the distance doesn’t matter.. the fact that some fans from Atlanta have to travel, I could literally care less about.. the game is sold out every year.. so there must be fans who don’t mind it.. the proximity of the schools to Jacksonville is a. Moot point.
Posted on 7/25/22 at 9:23 am to DawgsLife
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Wait. Are you saying the vast majority of Florida fans are not within an hour of the campus?
You're joking, right?
There is no chance the vast majority of Gators live within an hour of campus. Most Floridians live near or south of I-4.
This post was edited on 7/25/22 at 9:30 am
Posted on 7/25/22 at 11:28 am to HotRock
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It blows my mind that people think this is a long article.
My goodness how dumb have we become that we can't read a few paragraphs?
It was just written really poorly. The reporter added in stupid quips to try to make it better. Just tell us what happened. No need to say that "Kirby smarted acted like the all american safety he was in 1988"
Posted on 7/25/22 at 1:49 pm to JetDawg
Why not do a 3 year cycle
Gainsville-Athens-Jax-Gainsville-Athens-Jax
or
Every 5th year do Jax???
Gainsville-Athens-Jax-Gainsville-Athens-Jax
or
Every 5th year do Jax???
Posted on 7/25/22 at 1:58 pm to Biko
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Why not do a 3 year cycle
Gainsville-Athens-Jax-Gainsville-Athens-Jax
1) It's entirely unnecessary
2) That doesn't solve the flimsy and fake excuse regarding recruiting. In that scenario we'd play UF in Athens twice in a 6 year cycle, opposed to playing them 3 times in Athens in a regular home/home over the same length of time.
Posted on 7/25/22 at 2:03 pm to DawgsLife
It is the best negotiating ploy because it is real. Kirby is moving that ish.
Sanford renovations are scheduled for completion before the 2024 season. So that’s your target. Jax will have to cough up a lot of money to make UGA not want to move the game.
UF will probably keep their half there so it’ll become every other year thing.
Sanford renovations are scheduled for completion before the 2024 season. So that’s your target. Jax will have to cough up a lot of money to make UGA not want to move the game.
UF will probably keep their half there so it’ll become every other year thing.
Posted on 7/25/22 at 2:04 pm to WG_Dawg
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2) That doesn't solve the flimsy and fake excuse regarding recruiting
Seems you have a problem with Kirby Smart and doubt his insights and reasons into the task of recruiting and its difficulties.
Ever thought of letting him know your views on the subject? It might save him a ton of energy and worry about something he shouldn't have any concern over.
Posted on 7/25/22 at 2:10 pm to JetDawg
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Seems you have a problem with Kirby Smart
I love Kirby. Probably the best coach we've ever had
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doubt his insights and reasons into the task of recruiting and its difficulties.
I think it's overblown, yeah. Just because he's awesome doesn't make him perfect.
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Ever thought of letting him know your views on the subject?
I'm not a complete weirdo like you so no, I haven't. Since that would accomplish precisely nothing.
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It might save him a ton of energy and worry about something he shouldn't have any concern over.
He doens't care what I think and what I think has no bearing on anyone. We're simply sharing our thoughts on a message board to other strangers. Not sure why you think it should elevate beyond that?
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