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re: This is the rule regarding who plays in the BCS NCG

Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:03 am to
Posted by tetu
Ascension Parish
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:03 am to
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I don't know why everyone in this thread is insisting that it's the first thing that's looked at.
B/c if we lose to Arky, 1-7 wouldn't decide anything since we have the same records head-to-head(2), w/in division(3), vs team w/in divisinon w/ best overall(4)..... through (7).

So while it won't be the first thing looked at, it will be the first thing that matters as far as sorting out who goes to the seccg.
This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 8:04 am
Posted by HawgAlude
Member since Jul 2008
5658 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:09 am to
That is why I think we should forfeit and tell the BCS to fuk off. If we beat LSU and everything was fair then we should be in the National Championship game. However, even if we win that game it will not matter since we will not be playing in the National Championship game.

We win we get the Sugar Bowl

We lose then we get the Cap 1

that is why we need a playoff system teams like baseball can peak after different times of the year.

Posted by dmbear
Member since Aug 2008
38 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:22 am to
Not true.
LINK
Posted by 19auburn49
Alabama
Member since Apr 2011
286 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:24 am to
Plain and simple #1 plays #2, in the final BCS. If OSU beats Okla they cement #2,
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
29289 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:26 am to
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If we beat LSU and everything was fair then we should be in the National Championship game.


quote:

even if we win that game it will not matter since we will not be playing in the National Championship game.


WHAAAAA......deal with it.....If you had won every game like LSU has so far then you wouldn't have to be whining like this.
Posted by HawgAlude
Member since Jul 2008
5658 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:31 am to
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WHAAAAA......deal with it.....If you had won every game like LSU has so far then you wouldn't have to be whining like this.


If you lose a game then you should not be in it either see 2007.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:32 am to
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This is the rule regarding who plays in the BCS NCG


quote:


If a conference has a conference championship, then a team that does not play in that championship is not eligible for the National title game. Look it up.


Whut?

Here is the rules:

Team selection procedures

The bowls will select their participants from two pools: (1) automatic qualifiers, all of which must be selected, and, (2) at-large teams, if fewer than 10 teams qualify automatically. The following sequence will be used when establishing pairings:

1. The top two teams in the final BCS Standings will be placed in the National Championship Game ("NCG").

2. Unless they qualify to play in the NCG, the champions of selected conferences are contractually committed to host selected games:


Atlantic Coast Conference-Orange Bowl
Big Ten Conference-Rose Bowl
Big 12 Conference-Fiesta Bowl
Pac-12 Conference-Rose Bowl
Southeastern Conference-Sugar Bowl


Automatic qualification

1. The top two teams in the final BCS Standings shall play in the National Championship Game.

Has nothing to do with Conference Champions. It's the two, top ranked teams in the BCS. Period.
Posted by hoginthesw
DFW
Member since Sep 2009
5329 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:35 am to
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WHAAAAA......deal with it.....If you had won every game like LSU has so far then you wouldn't have to be whining like this.


Truth. Well, for us. Not Oklahoma.



Anyway, our best hope is the Sugar Bowl. All reasonable hog fans know this.
Posted by jjmarocc
Metairie
Member since Jul 2008
68 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:35 am to
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If you lose a game then you should not be in it either see 2007.


So, under your logic, there would not have been a National Championship in 2007, since every relevant team had one loss.
Posted by ottothewise
Member since Sep 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:35 am to
quote:

we very well could be ranked higher in the BCS. Which, if I recall correctly, would mean we would go to the SECCG in that scenario.


nope.
if there is a 3 way tie, you look at the BCS standings.

actually the 2nd place in the BCS (among the teams in the 3 way tie) goes, if they won the head to head, AND the 2nd place team is within 5 BCS places of the first place team (among the 3 tied)
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29289 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:39 am to
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If you lose a game then you should not be in it either see 2007.


Damn man everybody lost that day you wanted to just cancel the game .....but I see what happening here



Newflash.....It is going to be worse for you in BR bro.
Posted by HawgAlude
Member since Jul 2008
5658 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:40 am to
then petition for a 3 way playoff, who ever won it would kill the EAST champ. If Arky beats LSU then you have Bama and LSU again to play Arkansas to have one champ then they would go to the SECCG. Doubt LSU or Bama would want to replay that again though.

Posted by HogsInTheRock
ARKANSAS
Member since Nov 2004
625 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:59 am to
It's really not that hard, some of you are just not very smart.
Posted by tigerjab
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2006
363 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 9:06 am to
This is the rule to decide SEC CG...

If the top 2 are ranked within 5 places of each other (which would likely be the case if LSU lost to Ark), the second highest ranked team in the conference goes in the event they've already beaten the highest ranked team in the conference.

If LSU and Bama have the highest rankings, LSU goes (even if Bama is ranked higher).

If LSU and Ark have the highest rankings, Ark goes (even if LSU is ranked higher).

If Ark and Bama have the highest rankings, Bama goes (even if Ark is ranked higher)
This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 9:14 am
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
4978 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 9:11 am to
That's the majority of the posters in this thread.

BCS ranking would decide a 3 way tie, because the other tie breakers still end in a tie.

There is no such rule that a non-conference champ can't get into the BCS champ game. OU did it in 03, if i remember the year correctly. That's never changed. hence why we've been talking about a rematch for a month. If this rule existed I'm sure members of the media would be aware of it.

Lastly, Brad Edwards even talked about a way for 3 SEC teams to get into BCS bowls last night, if LSU loses to UGA in the Champ game, but LSU/Bama are still ranked #1 and #2 in the BCS rankings, then LSU/Bama will be in the National Championship, and UGA will go to the Sugar Bowl. If two non-conference champs are allowed, then one certainly is.

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EDIT: This.
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If LSU and Bama have the highest rankings, LSU goes (even if Bama is ranked higher).

If LSU and Ark have the highest rankings, Ark goes (even if LSU is ranked higher).

If Ark and Bama have the highest rankings, Bama goes (even if Ark is ranked higher)



This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 9:16 am
Posted by AUX3
Member since Dec 2010
3450 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 9:14 am to
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BCS ranking would decide a 3 way tie, because the other tie breakers still end in a tie.


LSU would have to lose twice. A loss to Arky would still keep them within 5 places of the UA in BCS standings. Therefore, they would look at Head to Head battle. Of course Arky would be within 5 too. Really - not sure who should get to go. Everyone assuming Arky would be out but why? They lost a long time ago. It would be a popularity contest for sure - and we would have one hell of a Mythical National Champion that didn't win it on the field.
Posted by hoginthesw
DFW
Member since Sep 2009
5329 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 9:15 am to
If we got Sugar or Cap One, anyone have any ideas on who we would play? I haven't kept up with that cluster frick of the Big 10.
Posted by Seto Vlatka
Member since Oct 2011
812 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 9:17 am to
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You're kidding right? LSU played a tougher schedule and beat Bama at Bama. Where in your mind do you think that would justify Bama being ranked highest?

You must not have been following football the last 3 days. They got beat at home to the so proclaimed "inferior" LSU team at home and only dropped 1 damn spot. If we drop one against Arkansas, you can bet your arse it won't be a 1 spot drop in the rankings. The media is banking on this because it's clear everyone is pro Alabama. In years past when we had this type of scenerio everyone proclaimed how a non divison winner team could not go to the NC. Now all of a sudden everything applies and we have these talks about rematches.

quote:

If we got Sugar or Cap One, anyone have any ideas on who we would play? I haven't kept up with that cluster frick of the Big 10.

Boise St.
This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 9:18 am
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
4978 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 9:17 am to
Sugar Bowl will prob be either Boise or Stanford/Oregon.

Cap One could be any of 6 teams..
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
4978 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 9:18 am to
That's not necessarily true. OU lost their Conference Champ game several years back to Kansas St and still made it to the BCS Championship game.
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