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re: This is the rule regarding who plays in the BCS NCG

Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:56 am to
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
5049 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:56 am to
This is very confusing
Posted by Marty McFrat
Arkansas hell
Member since Feb 2011
14827 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:00 am to
No shite

So tough with all the top 10 teams left that have to play one another to determine who ends up ranked there.
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
Member since Dec 2010
39829 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:04 am to
quote:

If a conference has a conference championship, then a team that does not play in that championship is not eligible for the National title game. Look it up.


give me a link
Posted by warau
Member since Nov 2010
2576 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:05 am to
If Bama and Arky win out, and LSU loses to Arky, they will all have identical records. The only scenario to break the three-way tie would be the bcs rankings.
Posted by attheua
Tuscaloosa
Member since Apr 2008
5442 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:10 am to
quote:

If a conference has a conference championship, then a team that does not play in that championship is not eligible for the National title game. Look it up.


If true, this wasn't in place when OU and Nebraska did it.
Posted by DesignTiger
Buford, Georgia
Member since Jun 2011
1518 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:15 am to
quote:

Nuh uh. In the event of a 3-way tie its highest BCS ranking. So if arky wins out and beats lsu, Bama would probably be ranked highest. Which means we go


Arky could possibly jump bama...just sayin.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:16 am to
quote:


Arky could possibly jump bama...just sayin.



If Stanford beats Oregon, they jump Alabama easily.
If Oregon beats Stanford, they jump to #3 or #4.

Stanford, Oregon, Okie St/Oklahoma and Boise St with an outside shot if one of those three teams chokes it away. If (big if) LSU wins out it's about 99% set in stone it will be one of those teams.
This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 1:19 am
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7636 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:16 am to
There is no such official rule. In 2007, there was a big argument (not really with a lot of merit) that UGA should get in the NC game over LSU. Had the voters in the polls/computers agreed, UGA would have been in the NC game over LSU. But, of course, the voters put LSU ahead of UGA on the basis of the SEC championship and the body of work over the season.
Posted by motorbreath
New Orleans Saints fan
Member since Jun 2004
6381 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:23 am to
This is not a rule. Google the original statement. The only other website with these exact words is a Texas a&m message board.
This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 1:24 am
Posted by attheua
Tuscaloosa
Member since Apr 2008
5442 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:41 am to
quote:

Arky could possibly jump bama...just sayin.


the human voters don't seem to like them
Posted by motorbreath
New Orleans Saints fan
Member since Jun 2004
6381 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:40 am to
quote:

the human voters don't seem to like them


Is there any other kind?
Posted by JonTheTigerFan
Central, LA
Member since Nov 2003
6784 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 4:57 am to
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eta: Okay, actually, the SEC uses the BCS ranking as the 8th tiebreaker, but it would be nearly impossible for it to ever come into play.


If LSU loses only to Arkansas, the season ends with a 3 way tie. Which of those tie breakers would eliminate Alabama, Arkansas or LSU? The 3 teams would have lost ONLY to each other, making all the other tie breakers a wash. Unless I'm looking at it wrong, which is entirely possible.
Posted by ant111
Member since Sep 2006
357 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 4:57 am to
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unless the second of the tied teams is ranked within five-or-fewer places of the highest ranked tied team. In this case, the head-to-head results of the top two ranked tied teams shall determine the representative in the SEC Championship Game.


Does this part of the tiebreaker not mean that LSU would have to drop at least six spots below Alabama in the bcs or they use LSU and Alabama head to head,which LSU won?
Posted by CzarChasm
Parts Unknown
Member since Sep 2011
76 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 5:15 am to
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If Bama and Arky win out, and LSU loses to Arky, they will all have identical records. The only scenario to break the three-way tie would be the bcs rankings.


Correct, except if the "second of the tied teams is ranked within five-or-fewer places of the highest ranked tied team. In this case, the head-to-head results of the top two ranked tied teams shall determine the representative in the SEC Championship Game."
LINK

If the top 2 are ranked within 5 places of each other (which would likely be the case if LSU lost to Ark), the second highest ranked team in the conference goes in the event they've already beaten the highest ranked team in the conference.

If LSU and Bama have the highest rankings, LSU goes (even if Bama is ranked higher).

If LSU and Ark have the highest rankings, Ark goes (even if LSU is ranked higher).

If Ark and Bama have the highest rankings, Bama goes (even if Ark is ranked higher).
Posted by audodger
Member since Jun 2010
7077 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 7:32 am to
1. (Once the tie has been reduced to two teams, go to the two-team tie-breaker format.)
2. Combined head-to-head record among the tied teams.
3. Record of the tied teams within the division.
4. Head-to-head competition vs. the team within the division with the best overall (divisional and non-divisional) Conference record and proceeding through the division. Multiple ties within the division will be broken from first to last.
5. Overall record vs. non-division teams.
6. Combined record vs. all common non-divisional teams.
7. Record vs. common non-divisional team with the best overall Conference (divisional and non-divisional) record and proceeding through other common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish within their division.
8. The tied team with the highest ranking in the Bowl Championship Series Standings following the last weekend of regular-season games shall be the divisional representative in the SEC Championship Game, unless the second of the tied teams is ranked within five-or-fewer places of the highest ranked tied team. In this case, the head-to-head results of the top two ranked tied teams shall determine the representative in the SEC Championship Game.

BCS ranking is the 8th tiebreaker in the event of a 3-way tie. I don't know why everyone in this thread is insisting that it's the first thing that's looked at.

Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43125 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 7:45 am to
nm Im talking shite and dont really know the rules
This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 7:47 am
Posted by MTurbo
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2010
1773 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 7:56 am to
quote:

If a conference has a conference championship, then a team that does not play in that championship is not eligible for the National title game. Look it up


I've tried to find this, do you have a LINK?
Posted by Mephistopheles
Member since Aug 2007
8328 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 7:59 am to
quote:

Actually, its entirely possible



But not entirely probable. Who's going to rank a one loss LSU behind a 1 loss Bama? The computers? Nope, LSU has two quality victories OOC. The pollsters? Doubtful.
Posted by MTurbo
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2010
1773 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 7:59 am to
quote:

If true, this wasn't in place when OU and Nebraska did it.


Oklahoma and Nebraska have played each other in the BCS NCG? Who knew?
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:01 am to
quote:

Why is everyone getting pissy about this?
It just looks that way because everytime you spout off some bullshite as fact,you get shot down.
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