Mephistopheles

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October surprise is the entire entertainment industry goes down as pederasts

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I think this is another trick hoping it spreads so Trump speaks about it.

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Here's hoping he's dumb enough to say it. Laura Loomer come on and do your thing?

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think this is right. He used to know how to cross the info-spheres, but he's living in the Newsmax/Truth-Social universe now and losing some ability to relate to people not in that informational environment

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Yeah and to go further, this stuff was hitting in 2016, I remember spirit cooking, Hillary having strokes, Bill Clinton is a rapist - this stuff was in the right place and it was hitting with the right people.

Particularly on the Clinton rapist thing, Alex Jones was having fun with it and making people feel involved while Bannon was fricking ruthless and brought his victims to a debate, which was a more grave and serious look.

There was stuff about Isis using American military gear being passed around on Facebook and it was bullshite but it was only being passed around between the people who wanted to hear it. Trump is taking this stuff mainstream, and 35% of the voters are going to be cheering while the rest of us are gonna be shaking our heads.

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There’s no one supporting the notion that trump won this. Even his most ardent supporters admit that she did well and he didn’t.

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Fact check: not true. Trump is insisting he won. Also many, many of his big supporters in social media are now coming around to the narrative and calling him the winner after immediately calling for things like ABCs moderators to be imprisoned, desperately trying to make the eating cats claim valid etc.

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give me an example of a vice president who changed the policy of his administration, or STFU

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Joe Biden soft called out Obama for not supporting gay marriage.

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The moment that elevated Mr. Biden’s standing among gay and lesbian activists was his appearance on NBC’s “Meet the Press” as vice president in 2012 when, in response to a question, he said he supported same-sex marriage. His response, which aides said was not calculated or planned, blindsided the White House and Mr. Obama, who had not yet staked out that position.

Given that he was a moderate Democrat with strong ties to blue-collar workers, that response changed the contours of the discussion and, in the view of many activists, emboldened other elected officials to jump on as well. Ms. Hecht-McGowan said she was campaigning in a pitched, and ultimately successful, battle on an initiative permitting same-sex marriage in Maryland.

“He created this watershed moment for the movement,” Ms. Hecht-McGowan said. “I believe that moment was the tipping point for the movement on marriage. He did what he needed to do.”

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I'm just really curious why it should be a Federal position. I like that it's put to vote at the state level. What am I missing here? I can clearly say I'm not the smartest dude on this topic. Educate me.

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Because it a federal law or case law upholds it as a right, and states like Texas, Mississippi, Idaho are forced to allow it, then the people there who don't want abortions are still free to not get one.

On an unrelated note, if you type Trump and Tarrifs in to Twitter it's basically just porn. Not in a metaphorical sense.

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How did she destroy him? Be specific please

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He took the bait almost every time.

She said out loud he killed the bipartisan immigration bill and then said his rallies are boring. His response? My rallies are great, didn't refute the idea he killed progress to suit himself.

Kept him talking about abortion - say what you like, every time he talks about abortion it hurts him.

There were more, it was 90 minutes long.

Harris campaign is already calling for another debate.

Just think, if it's this easy to bate him in public on a debate stage, how easy is it for Putin and others to manipulate him in private?

Trump lost.

That was the worst debate performance I've ever seen.

Unhinged.