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Posted on 11/22/11 at 8:58 am to bona fide
quote:totally Irrelevant.
Was it fair that GA beat LSU in the regular season and then had to beat them in the SECCG? Of course GA didn't win, did LSU refuse the title?
Different conferences and we big boys are talking about the national championship.
Edit:-LSU won both games that year so what the frick are you trying to do
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This post was edited on 11/22/11 at 9:00 am
Posted on 11/22/11 at 8:58 am to crimsonsaint
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"Life is like a box of chocolates..."
Posted on 11/22/11 at 8:58 am to am4titansandlsu
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you win in overtime or on a last second fg and there will be a bigger uproar than the gumps would want to admit.
The only uproar will be from LSU fans, mainly on here. There's a reason for only having one championship game and one trophy. What you did on November the 5th won't matter anymore.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 8:58 am to bigpapamac
FEAR
Posted on 11/22/11 at 8:59 am to bona fide
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I don't see it, can you elaborate why an LSU team that lost three SEC games including one to UT was deserving of another shot at UT? And why they accepted the title after winning the game.
Because we were the Western Division champs. If Bama was in the east and we had to play them in the SEC title game...it would be winner take all.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 8:59 am to spslayto
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You think Bama would be clamoring for a rematch in New Orleans with LSU had they beat LSU in overtime in Tuscaloosa? Amazing how the talking heads all said if LSU went in and won it, Bama really didn't have an argument for a rematch...how things change.
Alabama didn't deserve a chance until Oklahoma State and two other very strong 1 loss contenders (Oregon and Oklahoma) threw up all over themselves this past weekend. It's amazing to see the nice neat package LSU fans have tried to place over the regular season LSU/Bama game as if that loss was the end all be all to Bama's title hopes and no other circumstances like every other team ranked ahead of Alabama falling apart could change anything. Well the unthinkable DID happen the last two weeks (Stanford lost, Okie State lost, Oregon lost, and Oklahoma lost) ane THAT is how a team that admittedly didn't deserve a shot at a rematch now does deserve the shot at the rematch.
As for whether or not I supported Michigan in 2006, their circumstance was much different. They lost their VERY LAST GAME and had NO TIME to win anymore games or have anyone else ahead of them lose. Alabama had 3 games left and 4 teams ranked either just ahead of and just behind them lost to average to poor teams. #2 Alabama lost the Iron Bowl to a Top 10 Auburn team in 1989 and we were rightfully knocked out of any chance at a national title so you simply can't lose your very last game and have any realistic hope of playing for it all. Unfortunately, timing of a loss does matter.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 8:59 am to Govt Tide
Gonna have to upgrade the bucket to a drum after the 3rd in a row.....
Posted on 11/22/11 at 8:59 am to Govt Tide
The problem with your logic is you are claiming Alabama is without a doubt the number 2 team in the country because they have the best "loss"
If Ok St. and LSU wins out, Ok St. will also have a legitimate argument for number 2 because they have a tougher schedule. And since voters have seen what Bama has done against this LSU team it isnt unfathomable to think some would want to give Ok St. a shot instead.
And I'm not saying Bama doesnt deserve a rematch, but its certainly up for discussion.
If Ok St. and LSU wins out, Ok St. will also have a legitimate argument for number 2 because they have a tougher schedule. And since voters have seen what Bama has done against this LSU team it isnt unfathomable to think some would want to give Ok St. a shot instead.
And I'm not saying Bama doesnt deserve a rematch, but its certainly up for discussion.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:00 am to Govt Tide
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How is it fair that in a evaluating a group of 1 loss teams Alabama is AUTOMATICALLY eliminated ONLY because their loss came to the #1 team who just happens to be the BCS opponent? You realize the basis for LSU's entire argument is that Alabama doesn't deserve #2 because it might inconvenience LSU who is #1? In other words, it wouldn't matter if Alabama's body of work was clearly 2nd best in the country. Anti rematch people are actually arguing that the other 1 loss teams could lose to #297 Northwest Nevada Tech so long as their 1 loss wasn't to #1 LSU. Absurd, ridiculous logic
Kind of like being able to claim you are the best team in the country but didn't win your division or conference. Or perhaps you prefer the absurd, ridiculous logic that Alabama is better off losing to LSU than if they had won in terms of the road to the title game. Finally, perhaps you prefer the absurd, ridiculous logic that Bama is the number two team in the nation and the only way to validate that is by giving them another bite at the apple. Why not just be happy when you are voted #2 at the end of the year if that is what this is really about.
Look, Bama probably is the second best team in the nation. They probably deserve a rematch based on the fact that they are the second best team (though their resume will be debated by "experts"). But let's not pretend this is about what is logical. Otherwise, Arkansas wouldn't show up this weekend (Bama beat Ark, LSU beat Bama, LSU will beat Ark) and LSU and Bama wouldn't take place because again because the result has already been determined. There are many good reasons Alabama can argue, but the absurdity of logic being used isn't one of them.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:00 am to spslayto
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Same question applies.
What applies for you is the adage "sometimes it's better to be assumed an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." There is no comparison between a team getting a rematch from a team on the other side in the SECCG and the BCSCG. That LSU team who played UT twice made the sugar bowl and that was it. There was never talk of elevating that tiger team (or any other SEC non champion) to the BCSCG unless they won the conference.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:00 am to meauxjeaux2
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Edit:-LSU won both games that year so what the frick are you trying to do
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Read the thread
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Different conferences
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Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:00 am to crimson crazy
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you win in overtime or on a last second fg and there will be a bigger uproar than the gumps would want to admit.
The only uproar will be from LSU fans, mainly on here.
Yeah, you're officially 'off the deep in' delusional if you think the ONLY uproar in that scenario will be "on here" if things play out that way.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:01 am to I-59 Tiger
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Not just hypocrites, delusional hypocrites
Again, keep telling yourself that.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:01 am to WSB33
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Man the frick up and win at home
Clearly, in this case, we didn't have to. Maybe you guys should have won more convincingly if you didn't want a rematch?
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:01 am to crimson crazy
quote:because LSU won,in alabama.
Again, you're making this about LSU
How fricking dense can you be?
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:02 am to Kingpin
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Well, maybe you should have just let us win in the first place if you didn't want to have to go to Atlanta.
You did this to yourselves. Stop blaming us.
Bama fans, save what shred of dignity you have. Stop him before he posts again.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:02 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Yeah, you're officially 'off the deep in' delusional if you think the ONLY uproar in that scenario will be "on here" if things play out that way.
Don't you mean "off the deep END"?
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:03 am to TigerDog83
I see the argument that a team should not have to win against a team twice in order to prove themselves and to win a title. Yet that is exactly the scenario that benefited LSU in '01, how many LSU fans were upset?
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:03 am to bona fide
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Divisional champions
Since the SEC expanded, Divisional Champions have been crowned. Occasionally, a tie between two or more teams occurs, requiring a tie-break. All teams involved in the tie breaker are considered Co-Divisional Champions, and the winner of the tie-breaker is the division's representative to the Championship Game. Below is list of all Divisional Champions and Co-Champions. Co-Champion schools are listed in alphabetical order, * denotes tie-break winner and subsequent division representative.
Year Eastern Division Western Division
1992 Florida*, Georgia Alabama
1993 Florida Alabama†
1994 Florida Alabama
1995 Florida Arkansas
1996 Florida Alabama*, LSU
1997 Tennessee Auburn*, LSU
1998 Tennessee Mississippi State*, Arkansas
1999 Florida Alabama
2000 Florida Auburn
2001 Tennessee LSU*, Auburn
2002 Georgia Arkansas*, Auburn, LSU‡
2003 Georgia*, Florida, Tennessee LSU*, Mississippi
2004 Tennessee Auburn
2005 Georgia LSU*, Auburn
2006 Florida Arkansas
2007 Tennessee*, Georgia LSU
2008 Florida Alabama
2009 Florida Alabama
2010 South Carolina Auburn
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