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re: The "you already lost to LSU" argument
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:42 am to 756
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:42 am to 756
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everywhere? kicking.....
First downs. Third down conversions. Passing. Total yards. Time of possession. And yes kicking. More attempts from longer drives.
The thing the corndogs have going for them is Wing. If it weren't for him you might have gotten close only once.
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Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:42 am to therick711
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If Bama lost to Auburn they would still find a way to say they are the second best team.
Bama is favored by 19 against AU. OSU lost to a team that were favored by a greater margin to beat and yet there are STILL people trying to say they deserve to be #2.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:42 am to bona fide
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I'm asking you that question. You said "that is not how playoff systems work". Which playoff systems are you referring to?
I don't understand why you didn't follow.
I said college football has way more teams and/or much less games; therefore, the season play is not comparable at all to other major sports.
You can't disregard the season by putting in a bunch of at large teams because there is too few games for the number of teams in FBS.
The best system would be using the conference as entrance brackets into the playoff of conference champions. Would there still be problems yes; however, it would give everyone a chance and eliminate the large conference bias.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:42 am to LNCHBOX
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How about field goals, net punting, and score?
Not to mention the hat is undefeated when LSU rushes for over 100 yards while holding his opponent under 100 yards rushing. There's a nice stat.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:43 am to Tha Truth
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Going in to last weekend, I felt that the "you've already lost to LSU argument" was strong enough to allow several teams in over Bama. I didn't feel that any of them were close to being as good as Alabama, nonetheless, the anti-rematch/anti-SEC/ anti-all defense NCCG sentiment was strong enough that the media could have reasonably gotten away with putting them ahead of Bama. However, this past weekend took out anyone that the media could have semi-logically put ahead of Bama...
Oklahoma- Had they won out and finished with one loss I felt that they should have gone in front of Bama. Their loss was bad (but it wasn't to LSU, which worked in their favor as retarded as it may seem), but they would have finished with a better collection of victories than Bama (OSU, KSU, Baylor, Texas, Mizzou, A&M, Iowa St, Tulsa). They looked pretty dominant at times... and though I thought Bama was obviously better team, I felt that they did enough to deserve a shot, then they lost to Baylor.
Oklahoma State- Even after their loss on Friday, I felt that they could have been used in a "you already lost to LSU argument," but it really depended on Oklahoma coming in to their game as #3 or #4 in the nation. However, a 2 loss barely top 10 Oklahoma just doesn't make for a strong enough statement to finish up with. Their awful loss, paper bag defense, and lack of a real signature win prevents even those that absolutely detest the SEC from reasonably putting them in over Alabama.
Oregon- No matter how they finished I didn't feel that they deserved a rematch over Alabama, but the fact that they were not in the SEC and hadn't played LSU since week 1 could have been enough for the anti-sec types to push them in ahead of Alabama.
Even before things shook out the way that they did this past weekend, there wasn't a team in the nation that actually deserved to play in the game ahead of Bama (aside from an undefeated OSU). Anyone who has really watched college football this season can see that Bama has been the absolute best team that isn't LSU. Yes, they won't win their division, but there's not a team in the nation that would win a division if LSU played in it.
Couldn't have said it any better myself. This board could learn A LOT from you.
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Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:44 am to bona fide
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Was it fair that GA beat LSU in the regular season and then had to beat them in the SECCG? Of course GA didn't win, did LSU refuse the title?
Ga never beat LSU in the regular season that year.
Georgia = east
Bama = west
Good lord man.
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Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:45 am to TheDoc
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Was it fair that GA beat LSU in the regular season and then had to beat them in the SECCG? Of course GA didn't win, did LSU refuse the title?
Not to mention this never happened. LSU beat UGA twice in 2003
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:46 am to therick711
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Not to mention the hat is undefeated when LSU rushes for over 100 yards while holding his opponent under 100 yards rushing. There's a nice sta
That's why you folks should relish at the chance to beat Bama twice.
No doubt, Wing is the best weapon the Hat has. I wish we had him.
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Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:46 am to jatebe
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So they are on par with Alabama not having to play the one extra game.
The Big 12 conference teams play more conference games than non SECCG participants.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:48 am to LNCHBOX
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Because we don't want to have to embarrass you twice. We're nice like that.
I don't mind. If Bama fans don't mind getting beaten twice in one year why should the corndogs?
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:49 am to arty
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That's why you folks should relish at the chance to beat Bama twice.
No doubt, Wing is the best weapon the Hat has. I wish we had him.
You are hilarious. It is like you are trying to goad us into wanting to play Bama like A) we have any choice in the matter at all and B) like we are little kids and you can keep taking digs and somehow we'll do something stupid that will cause LSU to have to play you again.
What is your agenda? You think Bama should get another shot. Many fans in this thread don't for a myriad of reasons. Now you are just trolling like this is the WWE and you can "trick" LSU into giving you a title match.
If LSU plays Bama again, so be it. The fact that you couldn't convince some skeptics in this thread is no reason to be ridiculous at every turn.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:50 am to arty
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The better team doesn't always win. I witnessed Punt Bama Punt that proves that.
If little Nicky would have punted instead of trying for field goals that he knew the kicker couldn't make, we would not be discussing this right now!!!
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:54 am to arty
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That's why you folks should relish at the chance to beat Bama twice.
If LSU has to play bama twice they will.
And when they beat bama in the superdome, we'll hear the same excuses:
"your Punter is too good!"
"no way that was an interception!"
"we threw for more yards!"
"we missed 45 yard field goals,but they were long!"
"it was a home game for lsu!"
"the refs didn't call a fair game!"
"if it weren't for the turnovers bama would have won"
"the best team doesn't always win"
Im looking forward to playing bama again of lsu gets the chance.
It will be 10 times sweeter Beating bama in the superdome, and twice in one season.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:57 am to arty
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If Bama fans don't mind getting beaten twice in one year why should the corndogs?
Because no one has beaten us once.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:57 am to Govt Tide
It goes back to if you can't win your division much less your conference, there is no way in hell you should play for the NC. This is definitely a great argument for a play off system but in the current system you don't deserve it. A one loss conference champion should play in the NCG before Bama.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:58 am to Govt Tide
quote:Ah, so you are on a crusade to rid the LSU fanbase of rantards. How noble of you. I hope you succeed because the team JJ/team JL is fricking retarded and old. That being said, please stop your ranter crusade and rid your fanbase of retarded Gumps first; then, come back and clean up our yard. Start at TideFans.
Because all the contenders for #2 have 1 loss then you have to look at who they lost to as well as their body of work. Many Rantards want the LSU loss to be a automatic disqualifier for Alabama because they've convinced themselves of some non existant rule against teams that don't win their conference or even their division being able to play in the BCS title game. That is the point of view that I'm calling ridiculous and absurd.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:58 am to therick711
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You are hilarious. It is like you are trying to goad us into wanting to play Bama like A) we have any choice in the matter at all and B) like we are little kids and you can keep taking digs and somehow we'll do something stupid that will cause LSU to have to play you again.
I think you have some kind of reading comprehension problem or you like to build strawmen.
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What is your agenda? You think Bama should get another shot. Many fans in this thread don't for a myriad of reasons. Now you are just trolling like this is the WWE and you can "trick" LSU into giving you a title match.
I would be lying if I didn't tell you I think LSU and Bama are the two best teams. I wish I did but I don't have any control over whether Bama plays LSU again or not. Thanks for the credit though. I'll have to work on it.
The myriad of reasons are you don't want to have to play an extra game when it won't benefit you and you're pissed off Bama might not have to do the same. Plus you want the weakest team as an opponent. I can understand that. I'd feel the same way so why can't you just admit it instead of trying to placate us with the bs.
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If LSU plays Bama again, so be it. The fact that you couldn't convince some skeptics in this thread is no reason to be ridiculous at every turn.
I'm not trying to convince anybody of anything. I wouldn't want to have to play an extra game for nothing. And I would want to play the weakest opponent so my team could hoist the crystal football.
Why can't you people just admit it?
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:58 am to TheDoc
If Alabama makes it to the BCS title game (still not totally comfortable they will even with a win in the Iron Bowl) and LSU beat Alabama again I'll be LSU and Lesticles for a long time to come. What other choice would respectable Alabama fans have? 
LSU and Lesticles for a long time to come. What other choice would respectable Alabama fans have? 
Posted on 11/22/11 at 11:00 am to TheDoc
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Posted on 11/22/11 at 11:00 am to TheDoc
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Ga never beat LSU in the regular season that year.
I corrected a few post later, I was mistaken. It was UT in'01 that I was trying to remember.
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