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re: The uncatchable rule is the worst in football at any level

Posted on 10/14/24 at 9:28 pm to
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
19414 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 9:28 pm to
Yes
Another one
Thank you
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
19414 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 9:31 pm to
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tipped pass



Yes another one
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
19414 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 9:32 pm to
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Intentional grounding



But a foul was called on the offense
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
13088 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 9:36 pm to
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wish they'd expand it. If a tick tack foul is on the complete other side of the field and did not affect the play whatsoever, I think they should be be enforced on the next play from scrimmage but not take away what the previous play.

I can't tell you how many times I've seen a great play, kick return, something get completely erased because of some non-major penalty that was nowhere near the play and affected the play in zero way, many games many teams, not just my own.

It makes me sick every time.


This would be a terrible change. How can you definitely say that a held defender could have no impact on the play just because they're on the other side of the field.

An extra step or two to catch up to the returner lost because it happened too far away. Way too open to interpretation and frickery
This post was edited on 10/14/24 at 9:37 pm
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
17307 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 9:36 pm to
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But a foul was called on the offense

you could have offensive PI not called on an uncatchable ball though..
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
19414 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 9:42 pm to
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How can you interfere with an uncatchable pass? The defender has the same right to the ball as the receiver. How would you even know who to call it on if nobody has a shot at the ball?



So if a QB throws a pass down field and the WR is 5 yards short of catching it

Every possible foul on that play should be eliminated


He couldn’t catch the ball

So no offensive holding

No defensive holding

He couldn’t catch the ball

So no penalties

Should be called
Posted by BigScoreboard
Member since May 2021
1608 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 9:43 pm to
Penalties should be half the distance away from the goal exactly like the penalties are assessed towards the goal line when it is half the distance.
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I had never thought of this, but I think it's actually a great idea. Take a personal foul on the 10 yard line. Against the D, it costs them 5 yards, but against the O it costs them 15. Is that fair and balanced? No!
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
15320 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 9:47 pm to
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Actually if the SEC really doesn’t allow multiple replays ( in stadium) on a contested call THAT would be the stupidest rule in football.
I wish the replays were handled at a central location away from the stadium like the SEC office (how MLB does it).
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
19414 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 9:48 pm to
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you could have offensive PI not called on an uncatchable ball though..



You could have offensive PI or holding
Called on an uncatchable ball
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
19414 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 10:05 pm to
PI is PI weather you can catythe ball or not

Holding is holding if you can catch the ball or not

Off sides is offsides wrap you can catch the ball or not


I could on and on

Why would you let an official decide if a ball was catchable


After a defender committed pass interference?

Posted by Pvt Hudson
Member since Jan 2013
4260 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 10:17 pm to
Infield fly rule.

If you pop one up with a runner on base and the fielder wants to take the chance - should be his call.
Posted by Dallaswho
Texas
Member since Dec 2023
2454 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 11:53 pm to
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yards short of catching it Every possible foul on that play should be eliminated He couldn’t catch the ball So no offensive holding No defensive holding He couldn’t catch the ball So no penalties Should be called

Defensive holding is still in play. Qb might have failed to make last second holding adjustment prior to release. Can’t punish the QB for that.
Posted by truth22
Member since May 2021
1803 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 12:19 am to
You're exactly right. Holding is holding. it would be RIDICULOUS to try to manage a game with the subjective "well, i didnt think it affected the play over there..." standard.

without the guy being held, maybe he wouldve broken free and the QB spotted him at last minute and threw the other way.

also, WRs running free draw attention from other DBs. you cant say it didnt affect a play on the other side. You really want MORE subjective opinion of ref inserted in the game???? Really?

that's just ignorance of how football works. There are RULES to how you play football- FOLLOW THEM!!
This post was edited on 10/15/24 at 12:23 am
Posted by TTOWN RONMON
Member since Oct 2023
1150 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 1:10 am to
Well, I will say this, I never understood who the can just pick up the flag when another rule has been broken automatically, illegal contact past 5 yards, if the supposed foul was past 5 yards of course as most overthrown passes probably would be.
Posted by AulderMagee
Dallas
Member since Mar 2024
3087 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 2:41 am to
There are lots of them. You must not watch much college football.
Posted by AulderMagee
Dallas
Member since Mar 2024
3087 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 2:45 am to
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jonnyanony


hahaha you finally came out of hiding!



Two out of the last three

Scoreboard

Your coach about to be fired

CHOMP CHOMP motherfkker.

Enjoy the cellar!

Posted by BigSneezy
Member since Nov 2020
4057 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 4:55 am to
It’s not a foul. It’s a penalty. This isn’t basketball where every whistle is a foul. We have penalties and fouls and they are not the same thing.

One is a foul against the player. One is a penalty for gaining an unfair advantage.

That’s like saying off sides in soccer is a foul. It’s not.


This is quite possibly the most uninformed post I’ve ever seen.
Posted by northeasttiger
New York
Member since Sep 2008
2580 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 5:35 am to
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Worst is the half distance penalties near the goal for the team facing the goal line. Penalties should be half the distance away from the goal exactly like the penalties are assessed towards the goal line when it is half the distance.


This is true. But I’d settle for second penalty being equal.

If penalty on D is two yards then O penalty is 2 yards.

But if first penalty is O going in then mark the 10 or five yards back. Then a D penalty is 5 or 10 going the other way.
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
18247 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 6:10 am to
If it doesn't affect the actual play, start the next first down for the other team 10 yards ahead. Simple enough.

This country sucks at thinking on its feet.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
35235 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 6:43 am to
I agree.

If the defense can be called for holding away from the ball; that’s all the DPI is is holding.

It’s a foul.
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