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re: The truth about Mcelroy...

Posted on 8/14/10 at 9:52 pm to
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 8/14/10 at 9:52 pm to
Mallett had more INT's. Isn't that the definition of not helping your team? You know, giving the other team the ball?
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/14/10 at 10:02 pm to
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Va Tech: 15/30 230 yards 1TD and 1INT Arky: 17/24 291 yards 3 TD @Ole Miss: 15/34 147 yards South Carolina: 10/20 92 yards and 2 INTS Tennessee: 18/29 120 yards LSU: 19/34 276 yards 2TDs and 1 INT @Auburn: 21/31 218 yards 2 TDs Florida: 12/18 239 yards and 1TD Texas: 6/11 58 for yards 1536 yards 170.7 Yards Per Game 116/231 50.2% Comp. Percentage 9TDs/4INTs


I hope you aren't a math graduate from LSU. Using the games cited McElroy was:

133-231 57.5%
1671 yds
185.6 avg yds per game

Nice try, but again, I REALLY hope you aren't a LSU graduate with those poor math skills.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 8/14/10 at 10:05 pm to
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Why are you ONLY using completion %? That's not the be all, end all of qb stats.


Mallet 2189 yds 16 TD's 5 INT's 153/272 56%

McElroy 1723 yds 12 TD's 3 INT's 140/234 60%


There are your SEC performances.
This post was edited on 8/14/10 at 10:06 pm
Posted by Deuce3702
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 8/14/10 at 10:06 pm to
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phaz


Rough day on TI today.
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 8/14/10 at 10:08 pm to
Has anyone ever claimed he is anything more than a game manager?

Ingram/Richardson + Bama D, you don't need a gunslinger.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 8/14/10 at 10:09 pm to
I've said he's a good QB and I said Mallett is not a great QB. The numbers prove out both statements.
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
5836 posts
Posted on 8/14/10 at 10:09 pm to
Do you think I was wrong? I don't, but apparently I am now persona non grata now!
I said Alabama does what everyone else does, when they say that is not a defense for prior events. Anyway, I don't want to air our dirty laundry here for everyone to read.
Posted by Deuce3702
Member since Aug 2010
1669 posts
Posted on 8/14/10 at 10:15 pm to
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Do you think I was wrong? I don't, but apparently I am now persona non grata now!
I said Alabama does what everyone else does, when they say that is not a defense for prior events. Anyway, I don't want to air our dirty laundry here for everyone to read.


I came in on the debate late. Didn't mean for you to air it out. Just saying not everyone was irrationally against you.
This post was edited on 8/14/10 at 10:16 pm
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 8/14/10 at 10:23 pm to
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In SEC play here are their stats:

Mallett

139-272 passing for 51%
15 TD's and 6 Int's
2189 yds

McElroy

140-234 passing for 60%
12 TD's and 3 Int's
1723 yds


Mallett didn't have the luxury of handing the ball of to a heisman trophy winner.

Mallett also played on the road against the top 4 SEC defense's(alabama, UF, LSU, OM)

McElroy played his road games at UK, Miss ST, OM and Auburn only one good defense in there.

You would be amazed the difference of playing UF in the Swamp in the first year of starting at QB or playing as a visitor in BDS. Instead of playing UK and Miss St on the road. not intimidating.

You put McElroy in our offense he doesn't do shite. You put Mallett in Alabama offense you still probably go undefeated.
Posted by Woopigsooie20
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Posted on 8/14/10 at 10:25 pm to
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Mallet 2189 yds 16 TD's 5 INT's 153/272 56%

McElroy 1723 yds 12 TD's 3 INT's 140/234 60%


There are your SEC performances.


Looks like Mallett>>>McElroy to me.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 8/14/10 at 10:25 pm to
Less percentage. More INT's. 10 of the TD's against only 2 weak teams. Not really.
Posted by Woopigsooie20
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57359 posts
Posted on 8/14/10 at 10:27 pm to
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Less percentage. More INT's. 10 of the TD's against only 2 weak teams. Not really.


Look at our road games and look our your road games.

Arkansas - UF, Bama, OM, LSU

Alabama - UK, Miss St, OM, Auburn

which looks tougher to you.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 8/14/10 at 10:28 pm to
OM was mutual.. Gmac 44% Mallett 35%
Posted by Slut Hog
Member since May 2010
1092 posts
Posted on 8/14/10 at 10:33 pm to
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Mallet 2189 yds 16 TD's 5 INT's 153/272 56%

McElroy 1723 yds 12 TD's 3 INT's 140/234 60%


There are your SEC performances.


So, you admit it, Mallett had more yards and more touchdowns.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 8/14/10 at 10:34 pm to
and more INT's and worse completion rates.
Posted by LOYALBAMA
bham
Member since Sep 2008
2566 posts
Posted on 8/14/10 at 10:48 pm to
It's a team sport. Bama has a gunslinger we could put in, but will ride the pine behind G'mac again this year. I think a lot of this debate will be over after this year. G'mac will either get better or not. If he doesn't have a big year throwing the football he will just be remembered as a good QB that was a winner. That O.K.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
22053 posts
Posted on 8/15/10 at 1:13 am to
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You put McElroy in our offense he doesn't do shite. You put Mallett in Alabama offense you still probably go undefeated.


Nope. We don't. That headcase couldn't run Alabama's offense. He would've thrown more interceptions at Bama than he did at Arkansas.
Posted by UPT
NOLA
Member since May 2009
5513 posts
Posted on 8/15/10 at 2:07 am to
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If I were a Bama fan, I would trade Mcerloy and Ingram for Mallett, and I believe that I would have improved my team.


You're either a liar or you have no idea what you are talking about. I think you're just flaming. This is good dumb.

You're not very good at this.
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
Member since Mar 2010
57359 posts
Posted on 8/15/10 at 2:16 am to
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Nope. We don't. That headcase couldn't run Alabama's offense.


i would like to know why he is a headcase? Yea, he could run Bama' vanilla offense.


quote:

He would've thrown more interceptions at Bama than he did at Arkansas.


Yea, he added up the int's last season. An entire 7 int's all season. That is terrible.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22815 posts
Posted on 8/15/10 at 3:03 am to
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He had better numbers than Jordan Jefferson.




Jefferson threw for more yards a game, had the same amount of TDs, more pass plays over 25 yards, higher completion %, and was a better runner.

He did this with a much shittier OL and rushing attack. He also had worse defense eventhough it was pretty good.

He did this while getting to play two less games and he was a first year full time starter as McElroy(eventhough he is younger).
This post was edited on 8/15/10 at 3:04 am
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