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re: The truth about Beamer and South Carolina

Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:55 am to
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:55 am to
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Not good enough.


Exactly. No moral victories.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
125549 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:56 am to
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TiptonInSC
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
31967 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:56 am to
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Anyone who hires Mike Shula as their offensive coordinator in 2025 shouldn't be a head coach.


The only reason Beamer hired Shula is because he'd worked with Cam.

All of us knew watching the bowl game vs Bert last year that Shula was not the answer. He took our best weapon and told him not to do what made him special. STUPID, STUPID, STUPID!!!
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
1252 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:00 am to
Yeah, I was shocked Beamer hired him. I honestly (before that hire) thought Beamer was the perfect hire for y'all and he could possibly get y'all back to where Spurrier had y'all. But after he hired Shula, I kind of changed my opinion about him.
Posted by Nasty_Canasta
Your Mom’s house
Member since Dec 2024
4079 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:00 am to
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die before SC wins a championship in football. That's an awful thought to have in your brain.


Jets, Browns, Jaguars and Bengals fans agree
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
31967 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:06 am to
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I honestly (before that hire) thought Beamer was the perfect hire for y'all and he could possibly get y'all back to where Spurrier had y'all.


In many ways, and I hate to say this, Beamer IS the perfect coach for us (on paper anyway). But this season has been awful in every regard. literally nothing has gone right for us since the Kentucky game.

Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
31967 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:09 am to
I know you're trolling but get out of here with that. I posted this on out team board almost verbatim.. .

At this point, we're stuck with Beamer for another year. Until he gets fired 6 games in next season.

If we DO fire Beamer this year, the only tenable solution it to immediately name Sean Elliot the coach for 2026. He has HC experience at Ga State. That's the only way we keep our recruits, don't have mass defections in and pick up names in the portal. Otherwise, 2026 will be worse than 2025.

But an interim hire is still an interim hire. Just look how MsSt faired with Lebby this season. That's what a Sean Elliot hire looks like for SC.

Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
7238 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:09 am to
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If you fire him, you fire him and move completely on. no crumbs


Ideally, yes. But let's say SC is the worst job in the 16 team SEC. No one wants it, and you can't hire a sitting head coach.

If you're going to roll the dice on a coordinator, doing so on a guy who has been successful here isn't the worst way to go.

GT fired Geoff Collins and promoted their offensive line coach. It's worked for them. And really, we're not a dissimilar program (albeit with more nominal fan support). If you can't get Chesney, or even Jamey Chadwell, I'd look at White or Elliott (don't give me the Citadel bullshite, that 2015 Carolina team was atrocious at everything).

SC has to have a guy who wants to be there, and is willing to put in the work. Beamer has half of it.

Or, go off the wall and see if Hampton at Oregon wants to come home.

It's a difficult job. It may be one of the worst in Power 4. But there has to be someone who is willing to bet on themselves. If you go 7-5 consistently with a random 10 win season every 4 years, we'll build you a frigging statue.
Posted by Soonerd78
Member since Sep 2024
2569 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:09 am to
Here is the truth . South Carolina simply doesn’t have the tradition most sec schools have … you guys want what you can’t have . Sure you can have spurts like last year of playing really good with a senior led team but to sustain it will be hard. Why because you normally lose every recruiting battle to every sec school around you . If would take 20-25 years of success to get SC to a level of being able to compete yearly for wins and talent .
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
7238 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:14 am to
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Why because you normally lose every recruiting battle to every sec school around you


This is objectively untrue, and has been for the last 20 years. SC traditionally keeps the best players in SC *in* SC. We don't beat UGa for Georgia kids head-to-head, but no one really does. We've been successful with kids out of NC (much like UTK), and we've had success in DelMarVa and North Florida. SC doesn't go into Texas, Alabama, or Mississippi very often, and nor should they. There isn't a good chance of success there.

Talent isn't the issue, really. Hell, Muschamp had his entire offense in the NFL, and couldn't win here.

Finally, with the NIL/Portal bullshite, no one really knows what recruiting looks like, functionally, any longer. SC has found players at smaller schools and had great success with them. Demetrius Knight was an unknown at Charlotte, and became a 2nd rd pick. Juice Wells was a nobody at James Madison, and became All-SEC. Kennard was an also-ran at GT and won a Nagurski.

If SC builds a foundation from its traditional footprint and adds needs in the portal, they can be successful. We've literally seen them do it.
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 9:20 am
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
125549 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:16 am to
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Lonnie Utah
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 2:01 pm
Posted by halfadolla50
Member since Oct 2015
514 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:22 am to
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Y’all will always have The Who gives a shitt bowl in back to back seasons vs Ohio State 25 years ago



Oh and they will remind you of it every time you run into them
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47220 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:25 am to
upvoted
Posted by TheePalmetto
Member since Aug 2025
1214 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:27 am to
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We hired a guy to coach our program because Stephen Garcia laughed at his fart jokes a decade earlier. That makes us even bigger losers than Shane.


Can’t wait to give some family members shite about this at Thanksgiving this year. I told them it was a mistake because those guys came for Spurrier and Ellis Johnson, not because of the guy playing Halo with them in the locker room. I told them then we should have gone with Chadwell but nooooooooooooo we get the Temu Nepo baby instead.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
7238 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:29 am to
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Oh and they will remind you of it every time you run into them


Stop living in SC, go back to Ohio, and you won't have to hear about it.
Posted by Pimphand
Member since Sep 2021
3744 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:31 am to
If I were in your shoes I'd want to fix the Tanner at AD thing first then go find a football coach.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
14946 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:32 am to
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He can't fix several years of bad coaching in 2 games. The OC is where Beamer has to get it right. It could be an "up and coming" coach (they all are at one point, even the best) or a more seasoned one who is still young enough to be open minded. Replacing Beamer at this point is idiotic at best. He needs to lose his 'loyalty' to bad


Pretty damn early to be that high.If you're not high then you have zero excuse for such a idiotic take

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you are delusional if you think this is the time to replace Beamer. Yes.. with mediocre programs like Penn St, Florida


Your delusional to think Beamer can fix it when he is the reason for shitty coaches. Let's keep him so we can dig another year of being behind
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 9:35 am
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
7238 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:45 am to
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If I were in your shoes I'd want to fix the Tanner at AD thing first then go find a football coach.


Tanner is gone from the AD chair. Hired some slapdick at TCU to replace him last spring.

Problem is Donati whiffed on the baseball coaching change in the spring, and may need a basketball coach, too. He's inherited a dysfunctional program all the way around. Tanner paying dividends all over the place.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61070 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:47 am to
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Even if all that is true, he’s the one who decided not to kick the FG that would have put the game out of reach for aTm.


If USCe has 33 instead of 30 I seriously doubt that Klein calls the trick play on 3rd and 1 that left the door open for the Cocks there at the end.

It's not like that would have been a gimmie FG either. It would have been something like 48 yards
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 9:58 am
Posted by NorthernGamecock
MO
Member since Nov 2008
194 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:52 am to
Beamer will be around to start next season. He may or may not have a short leash depending on the offseason politics. We may or may not have key returning players. We are primed for successful programs to pick away some of our current talent.

I’m bracing for another losing season next year.

I’ll still watch though.
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