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re: The talk about A&M's offense if we had lost
Posted on 11/11/12 at 11:29 pm to wahoocs
Posted on 11/11/12 at 11:29 pm to wahoocs
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Puts way too much pressure on pitch and catch, and decision making by your QB.
Luckily we have a great QB and receivers. As an LSU fan, I can see why a system reliant on those factors would be worrisome to you.
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And is strongly dependent on weather conditions, also.
Not really. We put up 700 yards and 59 points in a monsoon against Arkansas. Sumlin put up 2,100 yards and 168 points in three downpour games in his time in Houston.
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Posted on 11/11/12 at 11:30 pm to The Boat
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Yards are cute but wins are all that matter.
Good thing we're winning then.
Posted on 11/11/12 at 11:31 pm to Projectpat
y'all beat bama on teh ground. saw sumlin go more pro style and less gadgety. i think he's learned. jff was spot on with his passing and, as usual, his getting free from sacks. basically bama stuffed his designed runs. calling y'alls offense gadgety is not accurate. as long as jff can get out of jams the way he does you will look good and win. it is still a very risky proposition with him running as often as he does.
Posted on 11/11/12 at 11:33 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Good thing we're winning then.
Exactly. West Virginia is learning that the hard way this season.
Posted on 11/11/12 at 11:39 pm to The Boat
Biggest differences between A&M and WVU are one, we have a decent defense as opposed to a horrid one and two, we have a great offensive line. WVU hasn't been able to run the ball or protect Geno very well this year, and their defense is truly abysmal.
Make no mistake, Mark Snyder is as a big a reason for our success as Sumlin and KK. He's taken average talent with no depth and turned out a defend that ranks in the top 25 in points allowed.
Make no mistake, Mark Snyder is as a big a reason for our success as Sumlin and KK. He's taken average talent with no depth and turned out a defend that ranks in the top 25 in points allowed.
Posted on 11/11/12 at 11:51 pm to LSU GrandDad
Depends on what you mean by that. If you're saying the ground game opened up the deep pass for us in the second half then I agree. That was a majority of our offense in the 4th as the ground game couldn't do shite.
Posted on 11/11/12 at 11:55 pm to Mr. Elvert
Bama's defense is nearly impossible to run consistently on. Their linebackers are as big as small school offensive linemen. A&M showed that, in space, their size is nullified and you can move the ball on them.
We need to have a bit better plan next year for LSU, but we definitely showed that we can move the ball on them. We need to limit the turnovers and run the ball on their three man fronts more.
We need to have a bit better plan next year for LSU, but we definitely showed that we can move the ball on them. We need to limit the turnovers and run the ball on their three man fronts more.
Posted on 11/11/12 at 11:59 pm to Projectpat
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This isn't some moral victory kind of thing, I'm just trying to point out how ridiculous it is to base your entire viewpoint on only the final score.
Wow. The fricking idiocy of this is off the chart. And yes, yes it is a "moral victory" thing. You're the worst damn poster on the rant.
I'm bookmarking this.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 12:10 am to Roger Klarvin
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We need to have a bit better plan next year for LSU
You don't get it, and I really don't care enough to spell it out anymore than I have to.
You needed a better plan for La Tech, too.
All those leads look great.
Baylor, Washington, La Tech, Oregon, W.V. and all the other track teams have plenty in common.
They suck on defense because they stay on the field. If you're lucky enough to keep your QB healthy, you'll win more than you'll lose. But, it won't include a national championship.
You won the turnover battle against Bama. You caught them at the right time in their schedule. And I hope you kick Texas' arse in the Cotton Bowl, but you can count me in the number that says your offensive phiolsophy will have to change to win a SECCG.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 12:11 am to juff
I don't think this is a moral victory at all. LSU beat us fair and square, no denying that.
This is about LSU fans carrying around this "we shut your arse down" trophy. Giving up 450 yards is not shutting a team down, especially when four possessions end in turnovers. Just because you won doesnt mean our offense failed.
The funny thing is that the game thread n Tigerdroppings was filled with "this offense is great" and "wtf is our defene doing" for the first two and a half quarters. LSU fans were literally shitting their pants the majority of the game.
In hindsight they have forgotten the pass that may have been a catch and run TD that was tipped for an INT, or the fly route in which the receiver quit on. Without those A&M mistakes, that game may have ended very differently.
This is about LSU fans carrying around this "we shut your arse down" trophy. Giving up 450 yards is not shutting a team down, especially when four possessions end in turnovers. Just because you won doesnt mean our offense failed.
The funny thing is that the game thread n Tigerdroppings was filled with "this offense is great" and "wtf is our defene doing" for the first two and a half quarters. LSU fans were literally shitting their pants the majority of the game.
In hindsight they have forgotten the pass that may have been a catch and run TD that was tipped for an INT, or the fly route in which the receiver quit on. Without those A&M mistakes, that game may have ended very differently.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 12:14 am to juff
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Wow. The fricking idiocy of this is off the chart. And yes, yes it is a "moral victory" thing. You're the worst damn poster on the rant.
I'm bookmarking this.
Drama queen. I'm saying for the purpose of assessing the viability of an offense, the outcome of 1 defensive play should be irrelevant, but it's not according to some here.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 12:15 am to Roger Klarvin
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You don't get it, and I really don't care enough to spell it out anymore than I have to.
You needed a better plan for La Tech, too.
La. Tech is going to finish in the top 15 if they win their bowl. They'd put up 400-500 yards on you, too.
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All those leads look great.
Baylor, Washington, La Tech, Oregon, W.V. and all the other track teams have plenty in common.
Yeah, they have awful defenses. We don't.
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You won the turnover battle against Bama. You caught them at the right time in their schedule. And I hope you kick Texas' arse in the Cotton Bowl, but you can count me in the number that says your offensive phiolsophy will have to change to win a SECCG.
We caught the best team in the nation at "the right time"? Whatever, I'll take it.
What you fail to mention is we were literally one play away from beating UF and LSU, and if we win EITHER of those games we would be playing in Atlanta. Hell, if LSU and Bama somehow lose again we still would be.
If our style is getting us within a play or two of the conference title game in the best conference in the country, what more can we ask for?
Posted on 11/12/12 at 12:21 am to wahoocs
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They suck on defense because they stay on the field.
I think this point is overblown, especially as it relates to A&M. We had more ToP vs. LSU.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 12:22 am to LSU1NSEC
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I'd bet aTm offense will evolve to a heavier run over next 3 years
They have to if they want to win the conference, when JFF get's limited a&m's offense just folds up. They need a running game to go to, and they need to establish it early in the game instead of using it when JFF gets shut down.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 12:23 am to Roger Klarvin
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Giving up 450 yards is not shutting a team down, especially when four possessions end in turnovers. Just because you won doesnt mean our offense failed.
That's just the way LSU does things.
Here's a quote from CrippleCreek, an LSU fan:
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In the last two seasons LSU's Defenses have taken down UO, WVU, and aTm with arguably the three strongest offensive minds in the game. In all 3 games the LSU D has given up a decent amount of yards, and forced an absurd amount of turnovers. At some point that is just not a coincidence, and it isn't just unforced errors by the other players, unless they just shite themselves looking at the freaks LSU lines up on D. LSUs Defense has arguably the best track record against these offenses in the entire country.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 12:26 am to Madara
And that's fine. But when you consistently give up 450-500 yards to "wide open" offenses, stop claiming you shut them down. You beat them, you got turnovers, whatever. Shutting a team down doesnt mean they moved the ball down the field all game and you got timely turnovers.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 12:30 am to Madara
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At some point that is just not a coincidence
You would think being shutout by Florida in the second half, getting a garbage TD against LSU in the second half, and losing 24-9 after the first quarter to Alabama would be more than a coincidence to these guys, too.
If you liked first half adjustments, just wait till you see first season adjustments.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 12:33 am to wahoocs
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losing 24-9 after the first quarter to Alabama
Posted on 11/12/12 at 12:33 am to wahoocs
The funny thing is that LSU fans, after saying all offseason we'd win 4-6 games this year, are trying to rationalize away two one-score losses to top 5 teams and claiming our offense won't work.
We're going to finish 5-6 games better than they said we would. Coming up one play short against two top-5 teams is all they have now. We're infinitely better than they expected and they can't fricking stand it.
We're going to finish 5-6 games better than they said we would. Coming up one play short against two top-5 teams is all they have now. We're infinitely better than they expected and they can't fricking stand it.
Posted on 11/12/12 at 12:34 am to Projectpat
Projectpat
Your team lost to LSU and UF.
Quit whoring stats
Your team lost to LSU and UF.
Quit whoring stats
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