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re: The SEC Dominance may be done

Posted on 1/2/15 at 11:46 am to
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
4931 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 11:46 am to
Yeah we are becoming too corporate, too arrogant, and we are starting to believe all of the hyperbole of the media. Let's get back to being lean and hungry.
Posted by Cornholio
LaPlace
Member since Nov 2007
8212 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 11:50 am to
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Urban Meyers


Who?
Posted by epbart
new york city
Member since Mar 2005
2926 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 11:54 am to
quote:

The spread is taking over time for SEC schools to adapt


There's a variety of spread offenses and, at a very minimum, there have been variations of what you may consider the spread run in the SEC since Urban Meyer implemented it at Florida around 2005... about a decade ago. And I suspect-- since Mullen was Meyer's OC-- that Mullen has been running a variation of that spread at Ms. St. for a few years now.

And then there's Sumlin, who I think runs a spread/Air Raid type offense since he took over 3-4 years ago. And if you consider those Air Raid offenses spread offenses, they have been in the SEC before Meyer brought his version to Florida a decade ago.

To the OP: There hasn't been as much speed discrepancy in the past as people generally assume. There are some SEC teams: usually LSU, UF & maybe/arguably Auburn, Bama & UGA that have been faster than most other teams. The SEC has been top heavy and the rest of the SEC, while perhaps slightly better than the average teams of other conferences, hasn't been that much better or faster than the rest of the country.

This year, both Ole Miss & Ms. St. had the good fortune to field experienced teams when both LSU and Bama had good, but not dominant teams. And Arkansas-- which makes a SECW title run every few years-- had a really slow start but finished on an upswing. So, the perception became that every team in the SECW was a contender... which ended up being a stretch.

Bottom line, because the Ms. schools-- which I've never considered to be among the faster SEC teams-- fell off at the end of the year after their experience allowed them a fast start doesn't mean the SEC has become marginal now. And Wisconsin plays an SEC team in bowl games frequently and always plays well in those games. SEC teams rarely-- if ever-- blow Wisconsin out. And Ohio State & Urban Meyer are consistent winners, so I don't find that result surprising either.

Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73472 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 11:57 am to
Bama dominance may be done.
Posted by Tigerhead
Member since Aug 2004
1176 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:52 pm to
The SEC may be down a little this season based on the bowl results, but I think if you go look at the NFL rosters you will see why. The majority of the big time talent is coming out of the south and in turn the SEC. When guys leave following their RS sophomore season and start in the pros the following season, it says the talent is still there. Unfortunately the win loss records suffer from the percentage of inexperienced players teams are forced to field. Unfortunate circumstance of the wealth of talent.
Posted by safetyman
Member since Jun 2011
11010 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:34 pm to
I really can care less about the SEC. Freak all of them. All i care about is LSU.
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
21257 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:35 pm to
Good who cares


Posted by lakelanier
Member since Oct 2014
972 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:37 pm to
I care about LSU only. I want the rest of the SEC to get their arse beat
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
16788 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:39 pm to
I don't root for the conference "brotherhood" anymore.

And I'm thrilled the fricking gumps lost.
Posted by BillyJoeBayou
A trailer park in huoston
Member since Dec 2014
69 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:42 pm to
burn the sce down!!!! i dont route for other pawn shops in the neighborhood i dont route for the sec burn em all down
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27721 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:43 pm to
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Notre Dame, OSU, Wisc


I disagree. OSU yes due to Meyer coaching there. If Tressel was still there, they still would be slow. Notre Dame is good due to the year they had in 2012. Once the coach is gone, back to mediocrity they will go. I don't agree with Wisconsin. Gordon is a stud, but who else?
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 2:02 pm to
part of the SEC west's problem IMHO lies in
a)the psychology and the let down of not being in the "winning circle" as it were. The SEC and the WEST specially play for the SEC title and the National title. I believe that when neither is attainable, the spirits dwindle. Maybe the coaches are not doing a good enough job with motivation.
2)Also, the strength is in the DEPTH of the division and the relentless week-to-week demand, so when you put them in Bowl games, you are always matching each team (which may the the 1 - 6th in the div) with another conference's best team and allowing 3 weeks preparation in addition.

Parity becomes more of a factor.

If we would match 6th SEC team vs the 6th "X" Conference team the results would be different...
in some cases, style also has a lot with it...I would dislike having to play GA TECH....have to re-learn a lot

3) As coaches move around, the SEC STYLE will be copied w its philosophy as well


This post was edited on 1/2/15 at 2:03 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260075 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 2:05 pm to
People knew when Meyer went to OSU that he would elevate coaching pay and expectations in the B1G. It's happening and the SEC is finding out that nothing lasts forever. In that conference now you have Urban and Harbaugh, expect other dominos to fall as well.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68466 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 2:06 pm to
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but we haven't changed our Offense from when it has been when CLM first got here. 


We've always been a running team. That's never going to change. LA hasn't produce a draft pick at qb since 05. Yet every year we have rbs. Why change to what we can recruit? Years we've had good qbs we threw the ball, not just under Miles.
This post was edited on 1/2/15 at 2:08 pm
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50248 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 2:09 pm to
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The SEC Dominance may be done


No. The "Bama" dominance may be done.

The problem with the SEC is that, in football, it has become so "Bama-Centric" that it is diluting the other programs.

The rematch in 2011, the rigged scheduling for several years, and the officiating were/are all designed to benefit one program. This dilutes the other programs.

Look at what UT essentially did to the Big 12.

I'm not worried about the SEC. Frick the SEC. I'm all LSU. I do not think it will be long for LSU to get back to being a title contender. LSU just needs to figure out how to properly deal with the issues I listed above.
This post was edited on 1/2/15 at 2:11 pm
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16399 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 2:23 pm to
I generally pull for the SEC schools but lose no sleep when Bama, et al loses.

The newer trends on O are forcing DC's to think outside the box. IMO, our former DC did a pretty good job of that. With the players Bama has, it's just odd that they keep getting stumped.

As for some of the bowl games:
- OM has no depth. Injuries to Treadwell, and Nkemdiche really hurt them.
- I think there has been some lousy game planning by some of the other schools (like us), State (no excuse for them).

Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4743 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 2:32 pm to
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Urban Meyers


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