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re: The reason why Texas and Texas A&M struggle....

Posted on 12/19/21 at 5:56 pm to
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
12965 posts
Posted on 12/19/21 at 5:56 pm to
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y'all are gonna have to change your recruiting strategy before you get here...


What do you think our "recruiting strategy" is at Oklahoma?
Posted by Sub Par SUPERSTAR
Florida
Member since Sep 2021
822 posts
Posted on 12/19/21 at 5:58 pm to
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You’re right but it’s because the coaching in TX high school football is so good. A senior in Texas HS football is a lot closer to his full potential than a senior in Louisiana because he’s been coached up so he looks better on tape. In reality the Louisiana player has a higher ceiling with college coaching.

This especially applies to defense. I would rather have a 3* Louisiana linebacker than a 4 star Texas one.




That's absolutely true, Deion said as much.
Posted by Colonel Ingus
Houston
Member since Nov 2021
5428 posts
Posted on 12/19/21 at 6:00 pm to
What does per capita matter other than for insecure dick measuring? Normally there’s 85 spots on your roster. Either your state has enough good players to fill your roster or it doesn’t.
Posted by Sub Par SUPERSTAR
Florida
Member since Sep 2021
822 posts
Posted on 12/19/21 at 6:01 pm to
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What do you think our "recruiting strategy" is at Oklahoma?

I would assume target DFW and supplement it with other places here and there...But As previously stated, Texas high school talent is incredibly overrated, so that's ultimately going to be a bad strategy.
Posted by Colonel Ingus
Houston
Member since Nov 2021
5428 posts
Posted on 12/19/21 at 6:03 pm to
If Florida has so much talent why can’t your school get any of them to sign?
Posted by Sub Par SUPERSTAR
Florida
Member since Sep 2021
822 posts
Posted on 12/19/21 at 6:05 pm to
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If Florida has so much talent why can’t your school get any of them to sign?

That's a very good question....One we've been trying to answer for a while now.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61638 posts
Posted on 12/19/21 at 6:07 pm to
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What does per capita matter other than for insecure dick measuring? Normally there’s 85 spots on your roster. Either your state has enough good players to fill your roster or it doesn’t.


You seriously can't understand it?
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
12965 posts
Posted on 12/19/21 at 6:09 pm to
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I would assume target DFW and supplement it with other places here and there...But As previously stated, Texas high school talent is incredibly overrated, so that's ultimately going to be a bad strategy.


We recruit nationally. And of course we still recruit in TX. Everybody does. If the talent down there were overrated, I'd expect the state to get less focus than it does, right?
Posted by Sub Par SUPERSTAR
Florida
Member since Sep 2021
822 posts
Posted on 12/19/21 at 6:14 pm to
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We recruit nationally. And of course we still recruit in TX. Everybody does. If the talent down there were overrated, I'd expect the state to get less focus than it does, right?

We got a transfer tackle from Texas who is the worst football player in America...The only reason he plays is because he has compromising photos of somebody important or something.
This post was edited on 12/19/21 at 6:17 pm
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
12965 posts
Posted on 12/19/21 at 6:26 pm to
texsa uses "their people" inside the recruiting services to puff up their commits recruiting rankings. Never accept a transfer from texsa.

I don't know why they sabotage their own program by signing players they know aren't as good as their ranking but I support the continuation of that policy.
Posted by LSUstephen17
Houston
Member since Aug 2010
13112 posts
Posted on 12/19/21 at 6:30 pm to
How about NEITHER HAS A FLIPPING COACH?!?!?! Maybe?? Lol
Posted by Crimson K
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2018
5821 posts
Posted on 12/19/21 at 6:35 pm to
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If Florida has so much talent why can’t your school get any of them to sign?


WTF is the logic with this question? I want you you to walk me through your thought process here.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
23010 posts
Posted on 12/19/21 at 6:38 pm to
Only partially true.

Texas gave birth to spread offenses and plays 7-on-7 ball in the off-season. Skill players on offense (especially QB) are legitimately led by Texas.

Where Texas fall off is in the trenches, and even more in LB’s. Texas has not produced a decent crop of LB‘s in years.
Posted by Sub Par SUPERSTAR
Florida
Member since Sep 2021
822 posts
Posted on 12/19/21 at 6:45 pm to
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Skill players on offense (especially QB) are legitimately led by Texas.

QBs yes, receivers? hell no.
Posted by WhiskeyDick
shite Poster
Member since Sep 2014
1389 posts
Posted on 12/19/21 at 6:58 pm to
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You’re right but it’s because the coaching in TX high school football is so good. A senior in Texas HS football is a lot closer to his full potential than a senior in Louisiana because he’s been coached up so he looks better on tape. In reality the Louisiana player has a higher ceiling with college coaching.



Also, the facilities and programs Texas has vs other places like Mississippi for example. There was a great article on this years ago showing stats regarding player development with Texas kids vs kids from the Deep South. Most had almost maxed out their potential in strength and conditioning thanks to fancy weight rooms and better nutrition, while many from poorer states didn’t have as many stars but had a lot of room for improvement in a proper S&C program. I’m not sure how much they’ve closed the gap over the years, but many of these schools didn’t even have weight rooms in them while lots of Texas high schools had facilities damn near on par with some colleges at the time.
Posted by Sub Par SUPERSTAR
Florida
Member since Sep 2021
822 posts
Posted on 12/19/21 at 7:13 pm to
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Also, the facilities and programs Texas has vs other places like Mississippi for example. There was a great article on this years ago showing stats regarding player development with Texas kids vs kids from the Deep South. Most had almost maxed out their potential in strength and conditioning thanks to fancy weight rooms and better nutrition, while many from poorer states didn’t have as many stars but had a lot of room for improvement in a proper S&C program. I’m not sure how much they’ve closed the gap over the years, but many of these schools didn’t even have weight rooms in them while lots of Texas high schools had facilities damn near on par with some colleges at the time.

Meanwhile, that 165 pound "3 star" from the muck that "doesn't really run polished routes/has a slight build" and runs 4.28 40, ends up getting his number retired at Akron and plays 12 years in the league.
Posted by BakeMcTribe
Member since Aug 2018
66 posts
Posted on 12/19/21 at 7:32 pm to
Mack Brown was the only coach to really lock down TXHSFB.

Mahomes: TTU NFLMVP
LT: TCU NFLHOF
Strahan: TSU NFLHOF
RGIII: Baylor Heisman
Lots more from the old school like Darrell Green.

How many HOFers and NFLMVPs from FAU, FIU, UCF, USF?
ZERO. And won't be any time soon.

Yet, ever since those schools have started taking players like Devin Singletary, TY Hilton, Marlon Mack etc. UF, Miami and FSU haven't really done shite.


Posted by Sub Par SUPERSTAR
Florida
Member since Sep 2021
822 posts
Posted on 12/19/21 at 7:42 pm to
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Mack Brown was the only coach to really lock down TXHSFB.

Mahomes: TTU NFLMVP
LT: TCU NFLHOF
Strahan: TSU NFLHOF
RGIII: Baylor Heisman
Lots more from the old school like Darrell Green.

How many HOFers and NFLMVPs from FAU, FIU, UCF, USF?
ZERO. And won't be any time soon.

Yet, ever since those schools have started taking players like Devin Singletary, TY Hilton, Marlon Mack etc. UF, Miami and FSU haven't really done
shite.

What the hell are you talking about? Those type of kids have ALWAYS gone to schools like that, the "3 stars who run a 4.3 and end up at Akron" that I mentioned earlier...Those guys going to those schools has absolutely nothing to do with the big 3 falling off.
This post was edited on 12/19/21 at 7:44 pm
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
16958 posts
Posted on 12/19/21 at 7:47 pm to
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No it's not.

It is though...And I'm telling you this as a friend, y'all are gonna have to change your recruiting strategy before you get here...Start getting REAL comfortable in Mississippi and Louisiana.

Do not forget coaching is part of it too! Not just players but who is coaching those players.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75819 posts
Posted on 12/19/21 at 7:50 pm to
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If the state of Texas was like LSU and 90% of its top 30 talent went to one school…. well, you wouldnt want to see it.


You act like Texas and A&M have been getting leftovers for decades. You should be able to field 5 teams like LSU and you don’t.
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