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re: The reason the SEC is getting Texas & Oklahoma...

Posted on 3/15/22 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 1:28 pm to
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Being right on the AR/OU border,

I like Fort Smith. Nice little town.

Posted by CouldCareLess
Member since Feb 2019
3083 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 1:28 pm to
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No one tried to rock the boat. That is about to change.
U Texas and there ultra liberal followers are both in for a rude awakening if they think they can rule the roost in the SEC!

Aint gonna happen.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
24176 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 1:29 pm to
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$$$$$$$$

Check out future money thru 2029 by Conf


The B1G media rights are up in 2023 so they may get a huge jump. The jump on the chart is an estimate I'ma ssuming (and maybe a good one for sure), but what is clear is that if you can get into the SEC or B1G you do it ASAP; they are basically doubling the other schools.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
22742 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 1:36 pm to
Plus with LSU about to get the death penalty, the SEC will be in good shape.
Posted by TideFaninFl
On the space coast
Member since Oct 2017
6772 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 1:40 pm to
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U Texas and there ultra liberal followers are both in for a rude awakening if they think they can rule the roost in the SEC!

Aint gonna happen.


UTexas does not add anything athletically or academically to the SEC

They do have a lot of money though, and boosters that are entitled because they donate that money.
Posted by Mason Dixon Swine
West Finger
Member since Jan 2019
2919 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 1:41 pm to
How the hell did Mizzou do anything to bridge the way to get OU/UT?

Posted by ReversePiggie
In non-Arkansas US
Member since Sep 2021
3877 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 1:49 pm to
Mildly surprised the Big 10 is still projected ahead of the SEC in revenue until 2025. Know they were in 2020, but dropped in 2021.
Posted by Buster83
Member since Aug 2021
4704 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 1:52 pm to
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U Texas and there ultra liberal followers are both in for a rude awakening if they think they can rule the roost in the SEC!

Aint gonna happen.


I agree with you, but they are going to try. There is not a more arrogant, entitled university in CFB. Their culture will not sit well with most of the rest of the SEC.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 1:56 pm to
Only reason we got stuck with Mizzou is because UF’s president at the time grew up in the state.
Posted by lazlodawg
Member since Sep 2017
543 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 1:57 pm to
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This is a really well thought out and nuanced post. But this:

quote:
A top 10 brand without question, arguably top 5 since joining the SEC.


Is debatable.


A better debate would be if A&M is top 5 in the SEC.
Posted by zounami
Member since Mar 2022
16 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 2:02 pm to
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UTexas does not add anything athletically or academically to the SEC.

C'mon, I hate the Longhorns as much as anyone, but they are an academic and athletic powerhouse.

Considered a "public Ivy", their academic programs are highly ranked across the board. Their athletic programs are consistently ranked in the top 20 (if not top 10) in *all* sports. Multiple national title contenders every year.

Most lucrative AD in the country. Like Notre Dame, even when the Longhorns suck, people (and media) still follow and care about them. Half their games will be marquee matchups with national appeal and high TV ratings. Not to mention the old SWC and Big12 rivalries.

Plus, and perhaps most importantly, it gives the SEC a monopoly in the most fertile recruiting territory in the land. That would be the state of Texas.
Posted by zounami
Member since Mar 2022
16 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 2:03 pm to
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How the hell did Mizzou do anything to bridge the way to get OU/UT?

Read the OP... It's fully explained.
Posted by zounami
Member since Mar 2022
16 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 2:06 pm to
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Only reason we got stuck with Mizzou is because UF’s president at the time grew up in the state.

Keep telling yourself that. And I suggest actually reading the OP.
Posted by CrunchimusMaximusThe
Knoxville
Member since Jan 2022
1712 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 2:09 pm to
It's all about money. Texas and Oklahoma have massive tv audiences as well as merchandise / ticket buyers. So does Texas A&M even.

Mizzou is the only real headscracher decision.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70658 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 2:21 pm to
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It's because Texas A&M – along with Missouri – created an historic, cultural, and geographic "bridge" for adding Texas and Oklahoma down the road.


False. Arkansas is the bridge to Oklahoma, not Missouri.

The state of Texas already borders both Louisiana and Arkansas, AnM wasn't needed as a "bridge".

In fact, I have it on good authority that the SEC wanted Texas, not AnM, but Texas was tied up in so many legal obligations worth a hundred million dollars with the Longhorn network that it wasn't feasible to add them, at the time, in 2011 when this was being wheeled and dealed, and the SECN was just rolling out.
Posted by The Scofflaw
Metairie, LA
Member since Sep 2014
1511 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 2:22 pm to
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To be clear, Texas A&M is an elite brand in its own right...


Into the trashcan your post goes.
Posted by The Scofflaw
Metairie, LA
Member since Sep 2014
1511 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 2:26 pm to
This is true, where I'm at atm in central TX, the three most common college sports teams support I see by far are UT, ATM, and LSU.
This post was edited on 3/15/22 at 2:28 pm
Posted by Rzrbackguy
Apalachicola, FL
Member since Jul 2014
2362 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 2:29 pm to
No matter how you slice it....all this was started by one J. Frank Broyles and the Razorbacks.

Arkansas wanted out of the SWC (which was 8 Texas schools and Arkansas). Texas thought they ruled that also, which led to the desire to leave. The SEC was the only place Frank wanted to go and they were wise enough to see the future too. Go round up USCe and make it happen. Done.

When that domino fell...all the rest of this was just inevitable. It's actually surprising that it took this long.

Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
19916 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 2:30 pm to
Damn sure didn’t want to go west.
Posted by SarkAfterDark69
Gilmer
Member since Mar 2022
118 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 2:38 pm to
I suspect it to be a 4x4 pod system
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