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re: The real scare behind COVID-19

Posted on 3/11/20 at 9:44 pm to
Posted by Sandperson
B-Ham, AL
Member since May 2005
4098 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 9:44 pm to
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China is full of shite and they basically left the infected area to die to get rid of their problem.

You are fricking holding up the most evil, commie country out there as an example to support your shitty conspiracy that no one believes anymore.

Go to fricking commie-ville if you like it so much.


You may be the worst poster in the history of Tiger Rant.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 9:46 pm to
Just shut up and open your damn eyes. You are talking about something you know nothing about. Entire towns are being shut down in Italy. School districts are closing here. people are being told to work from home. There is a reason this is being taken as seriously as it is.....except for dumb fricks like yourself.
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
5807 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 9:53 pm to
It will be overwhelmed by end of March. Per CDC, we have not been testing as many people as we should until now. CDC protocol as of last week was to not test unless you traveled to China or had contact with someone who did. They included Italy , Iran, Turkey and a few other countries over the weekend and “boom”. Now they are realizing that people were infected 2 weeks ago and just showing symptoms now. Meanwhile, they spread it for two weeks.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22668 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 9:53 pm to
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Just shut up and open your damn eyes. You are talking about something you know nothing about. Entire towns are being shut down in Italy. School districts are closing here. people are being told to work from home. There is a reason this is being taken as seriously as it is.....except for dumb fricks like yourself.


It's not my fault the stats aren't backing your narrative. How many times are you going to fall for the same old narrative?

The fact of the matter is it started in China and it didn't do much. Less than 4k deaths in months, and now they are starting to go back to work. It was spreading long before any quarantines (which never work).

You find an isolated instance and pretend that's the story. But Germany is just north of Italy, they test almost everyone and their numbers are extremely lower mortality rate.

And do you even acknowledge that the mortality rate is dropping across the board? Or that the initial numbers were likely biased because the only people who get tested were those having trouble with it as most people feel mild symptoms?

I really don't understand why you think panic is proof there is a need to panic.



This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 9:55 pm
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11455 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 9:55 pm to
3rdand10 knows better than the rest of the world. Go ahead, smart guy. Go get yourself exposed. You are at increased risk of dying with what you described. So why don’t you gamble that you will recover? And even if you do, you can spread to your family and neighbors. Maybe one of them aren’t so healthy. You can bring the angel of death to them. But you know better than the rest of us.

Please change your fandom. You are embarrassing the Alabama fans. Unlike you, most of us have IQ’s larger than our age.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 9:57 pm to
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It's not my fault the stats aren't backing your narrative. How many times are you going to fall for the same old narrative?


so you think entire sports leagues are shutting down, while costing themselves millions upon millions of dollars, just for the hell of it?


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And do you even acknowledge that the mortality rate is dropping across the board?


we have just started testing in the U.S.. This thing is just getting started............and it's multiplying at an alarming rate.

Seriously, you can't be this stupid, can you?


Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22668 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 9:57 pm to
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3rdand10 knows better than the rest of the world. Go ahead, smart guy. Go get yourself exposed. You are at increased risk of dying with what you described. So why don’t you gamble that you will recover? And even if you do, you can spread to your family and neighbors. Maybe one of them aren’t so healthy. You can bring the angel of death to them. But you know better than the rest of us.

Please change your fandom. You are embarrassing the Alabama fans. Unlike you, most of us have IQ’s larger than our age.



Well look at this, trying to fear monger and shame me because you sure as shite can't post actual stats or a real argument.

I wish we could compare IQ's for real. Unfortunately, none of you even seem to know what it's a measure of.




This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 9:58 pm
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:00 pm to
Here are actual stats....

at 7:15 A.M. CST yesterday morning there were 755 confirmed cases in the U.S.. How many unconfirmed do you think there are?

Again, 755 at 7:15 A.M. CST yesterday morning
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22668 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:01 pm to
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so you think entire sports leagues are shutting down, while costing themselves millions upon millions of dollars, just for the hell of it?



That's the world we live in now. Everything is based on perception rather than reality. If they don't shut things down and even 1 person gets sick, they get blamed, sued and who the frick knows what else.

But panic is not evidence for the need to panic, and I really wish you'd quit trying to pass it off as such.

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we have just started testing in the U.S.. This thing is just getting started............and it's multiplying at an alarming rate.

Seriously, you can't be this stupid, can you?


And the more testing that is done, the lower the mortality rate is going to be. Because they will be testing people with mild symptoms, not just those who are the sickest and having complications.

That's what's going on in Germany. Meanwhile you have a place like Italy that didn't start testing until there was an outbreak and then had their testing centered around the sickest.

Even in China the mortality rate has decline to less than 1%.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11455 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:03 pm to
I’m smart enough to know you don’t argue with a fool. People like you are what make diseases like this so dangerous.

So let’s use your numbers. The population of the US is roughly 330 million. Experts agree, eventually, at least 70% of the population of the world will be exposed to this. That’s 231 million Americans exposed. Even if 10% of those people get sick, that’s 23.1 million and a 1% death rate is 231,000 people.

No big deal.
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 10:11 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22668 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:04 pm to
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Here are actual stats....

at 7:15 A.M. CST yesterday morning there were 755 confirmed cases in the U.S.. How many unconfirmed do you think there are?

Again, 755 at 7:15 A.M. CST yesterday morning




Do you realize that unconfirmed cases actually means a lower mortality rate?

Because if someone is so sick they are going to die from it, then those are the ones who get tested. The ones that go unconfirmed are the ones that think it's just the cold or a flu and just drink extra fluids, get some extra rest and go about their business.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:05 pm to
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Well look at this, trying to fear monger and shame me because you sure as shite can't post actual stats or a real argument.

I wish we could compare IQ's for real. Unfortunately, none of you even seem to know what it's a measure of


I've never heard an intelligent adult talk about comparing IQs.

This is a serious pandemic. It has the potential to become an enormous emergency, and the US is less capable of quickly containing it than a many countries. We should all take precautions.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:07 pm to
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could and WOULD quarantine entire neighborhoods over diseases like polio and mumps and the 1918 flu. That was right here in the good old USA just a little over 100 years ago. Because they had no other means to stop it from spreading. We are close to that now. And if not COVID-19, what about the next virus to come along.


Polio and mumps are on a different level than wuhan flu.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22668 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:08 pm to
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I’m smart enough to know you don’t argue with a fool. People like you are what make diseases like this so dangerous.


Yep, I'm the reason people die. Not the people who travel across the world and contract these things to start with, not the virus itself, it's the guy on the message board who points out the panic is ridiculous.



You keep on attacking me, and I'll keep pointing out the facts. Deal?

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22668 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:08 pm to
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Polio and mumps are on a different level than wuhan flu.




More importantly, the quarantines he mentioned are known failures.

Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:09 pm to
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More importantly, the quarantines he mentioned are known failures.


Exactly.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:11 pm to
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Do you realize that unconfirmed cases actually means a lower mortality rate?

Because if someone is so sick they are going to die from it, then those are the ones who get tested. The ones that go unconfirmed are the ones that think it's just the cold or a flu and just drink extra fluids, get some extra rest and go about their business.


So what's an accurate morality rate? 1%? .5?

If we don't take appropriate steps right now that could still result in thousands of deaths.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22668 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:12 pm to
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I've never heard an intelligent adult talk about comparing IQs.

This is a serious pandemic. It has the potential to become an enormous emergency, and the US is less capable of quickly containing it than a many countries. We should all take precautions.


I'm not the one who constantly brings IQ up. If I did, I would use it towards what it actually measures, not as way question someone's knowledge.

Can you show me a quarantine that prevented the spread of anything?

I'm all for personal precautions. There is a virus out there, wash your hands and all that shite. If you really worry about it, stay at home.

I'm not into measures that don't work and only create the illusion of helping while people promote fear and panic.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22668 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:21 pm to
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So what's an accurate morality rate? 1%? .5?

If we don't take appropriate steps right now that could still result in thousands of deaths.


It depends on the age group. For people over 80 years old, it's much higher. For younger people, almost non-existent.

It's below 1% recently, just above the flu. If you take the entire time the virus has been known and tested for, it's above 2%.

It also depends a good bit on testing. The numbers are inflated a good bit because testing is limited. Which means people who have mild symptoms aren't usually tested, it's those who have more severe symptoms that the tests are used on. As more people get tested with milder symptoms, the numbers drop more and more.

You can see that in Germany, who tests large amounts of people. I think their rate is like .15%, basically the same as the flu. Italy on the other hand had an outbreak and they mostly test those already sick, they have a much higher mortality rate.

80% of people who get it only have mild symptoms and never get tested or go to the doctor at all.

If you really are interested in the topic and aren't just here to fear monger, this is a good read:

Why does France's coronavirus death rate differ so much to other countries?

Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:26 pm to

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Can you show me a quarantine that prevented the spread of anything?
.

Yeah. When way back in the year 2020. Where? Taiwan.

Of course quarantines are effective. I'm thinking mybe your University of Google degree in public health policy leaves you unqualified to give advice on this subject.
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