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re: The Oklahoma Theory
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:18 pm to Cheese Grits
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:18 pm to Cheese Grits
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It is why I have no confidence in Michigan if they get to the playoff.
The problem with Michigan is Harbaugh. Which is also why Michigan is back. Harbaugh. Harbaugh simply can't push the Easy Button. He just can't. He's a brilliant guy, that has to show you his brilliance. He can't take the easy answer. He personally fricked Michigan against TCU because of that one character flaw last year.
What do you do, when the guy that got you this far can't take you any more down the line ? Because the guy that got Michigan back to this point is also Harbaugh.
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Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:25 pm to Old Sarge
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How many decades did you have to go back to prove you weren’t Oklahomas bitch Because everyone living knows you’re their bitch
unlike the Aggies, we don’t have to move the goalpost
00s (9-2-1)
10s (6-3-0)
20s (0-3-0)
30s (6-3-1)
40s (8-2-0)
50s (3-7-0)
60s (9-1-0)
70s (3-6-1)
80s (4-5-1)
90s (7-2-1)
00s (4-6-0)
10s (3-8-0)
20s (1-2-0)
Overall Texas leada (63-50-5)
since 2000 (8-16)
since 1942 (39-39-3)
Bottom line: Oklahoma has had our number since 2000.. no sugarcoating that ugly spot.. but the streaks go back and forth, so we are hopefully due for a good run soon..
most recent 49-0
eta: also unlike Aggies, I have no problem whatsoever stating that Oklahoma has a better football program than Texas, despite our head to head lead over them.. and I knew that even when I was in school in the 90s, before they made up 8 more games on us since 2000.
This post was edited on 9/18/23 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 9/18/23 at 9:02 pm to ScoggDog
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What do you do, when the guy that got you this far can't take you any more down the line ?
Georgia 10-2 Richt and hired Kirby.
The problem with the B1G is they have been a 2 team conference since WW II and don't want to change the model but BuckNuts and MeatChicken are too scared to beef up the rest of the conference to succeed in the post season.
1950's = Michigan State was IND and a Natty team. Joins the B1G and never sniffed a Natty since
1970's = Penn State was IND with at least 2 Natty's under JoPa. Joins the B1G and not sniffed a Natty since
2000's = Nebraska is B8 & B12 and #2 behind Sooners. Joins B1G and gets booted from AAU by B1G members. No Natty runs since joining.
2010's = Rutgers (so B1G can claim they played the first game) and Maryland (so they can disrupt the ACC). BTN gets to enter the East Coast (NJ and MD) and pull recruits to tOSU and UM, but no help to Rutgers or Maryland.
Not a hard problem to solve but the 2 big dogs in conference will not allow it.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 9:19 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Oklahoma is about to become the new Nebraska, they aren’t really a good test case for anything.
I know this is a very popular take but I feel like it is a poor one
OU and Norman is the closest major to the DFW metroplex. The metro population is more than the state of Louisiana as a whole.
Lincoln is nowhere close to a talent center like that.
In addition OU gets to keep tapping into their contiguous states that they normally recruit from.
Nebraska abandoned their big 12 recruiting grounds where they were closer to better talent.
Selling a northeast Texas kid to drive 2.5 hours to play Texas tamu Arkansas and Missouri is a lot easier to sell than drive 10 hours to play Iowa and Minnesota.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 9:21 pm to Cheese Grits
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Not a hard problem to solve but the 2 big dogs in conference will not allow it.
USC may change that storyline in the next 10 years.. but it’s a valid argument
Posted on 9/18/23 at 9:25 pm to Adam Banks
agreed.. they have always been able to tap into Texas via the Red River Shootout and their proximity to DFW, and it’s going to be an even easier sell now in the SEC.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 9:41 pm to BigBro
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USC may change that storyline in the next 10 years
That is what they "sold" the cali schools
If I were a betting man, I would say they will be on the scrap heap with MSU, PSU, and UNL, but it will be too late by then. Beyers at the NCAA allowed this for the 1950's, 60's, and 70's which lead to the CFA. Folks blame Utx for the SWC and B12 but nobody ever seems to say the same about tOSU and UM in the B1G when it has always seemed much easier to see the older you are and lived through the actual history.
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it’s a valid argument
Odds are not in my favor to live to see it, but you probably will. Sometimes your grandparents were not more book smart or life smart, they just lived longer to see more possible outcomes to broaden their perspective.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 9:46 pm to Cheese Grits
I just don’t see USC the same as Nebraska, Penn State or Michigan State.
USC has boatloads of talent within 200 miles.. usually a lot less. If Riley ever finds a defense, which is a huge IF.. they are gonna be hard as hell to beat.
They would be much better off not having to practice against Lincoln’s Offense every day.
USC has boatloads of talent within 200 miles.. usually a lot less. If Riley ever finds a defense, which is a huge IF.. they are gonna be hard as hell to beat.
They would be much better off not having to practice against Lincoln’s Offense every day.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 9:47 pm to jonnyanony
Big 12 has always been horrific at scheduling ooc P5 opponents. And in conference is a bunch mid majors propped up by Texas and ou
Posted on 9/18/23 at 9:50 pm to BigBro
Everything about college football now is about getting as close to the NFL as possible for players.
Being in a big market, especially one with an NFL team, is going to be a bigger deal going forward.
USC has always been an easy place to recruit but if they're clicking at all every star will want to play there.
We saw that in the early 00s when Carroll cleaned up every year.
Being in a big market, especially one with an NFL team, is going to be a bigger deal going forward.
USC has always been an easy place to recruit but if they're clicking at all every star will want to play there.
We saw that in the early 00s when Carroll cleaned up every year.
This post was edited on 9/18/23 at 9:50 pm
Posted on 9/18/23 at 9:53 pm to jonnyanony
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Being in a big market, especially one with an NFL team, is going to be a bigger deal going forward.
idk that this would make a big difference in most cities.. but LA is a whole different beast altogether
Posted on 9/18/23 at 10:09 pm to Dratini
you really thought you did something with this
Posted on 9/18/23 at 10:11 pm to BigBro
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idk that this would make a big difference in most cities.. but LA is a whole different beast altogether
Few big cities have NFL and a big time college program.
GT, Vandy, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, USF, Stanford, UNLV, Boston College, Temple have also ran programs.
Miami could qualify but they have zero fan support and have shite the bed the last twenty years.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 10:22 pm to Dratini
A&M also destroyed a talented OU team in the Cotton Bowl in 2012.
Final score 41-17.
The Big12 in no way prepares you for the physicality of the SEC. In the Big12 you play one decent team a year. Maybe two.
And I’m not saying that OU won’t field decent teams or win games. What I am saying is that a 8 or 9 game SEC schedule is going to wear them down by mid year.
Final score 41-17.
The Big12 in no way prepares you for the physicality of the SEC. In the Big12 you play one decent team a year. Maybe two.
And I’m not saying that OU won’t field decent teams or win games. What I am saying is that a 8 or 9 game SEC schedule is going to wear them down by mid year.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 10:29 pm to Krampus
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Congrats on finally figuring out college football. The rest of us have known this instictively for decades.
Yet last year was proven that LSU still couldn't win the last 2 games. One was to a 5-7 team.
This post was edited on 9/18/23 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 9/18/23 at 10:40 pm to Aggie in TN
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A&M also destroyed a talented OU team in the Cotton Bowl in 2012. Final score 41-17. The Big12 in no way prepares you for the physicality of the SEC. In the Big12 you play one decent team a year. Maybe two. And I’m not saying that OU won’t field decent teams or win games. What I am saying is that a 8 or 9 game SEC schedule is going to wear them down by mid year.
So how do you explain the 11-2 record in 2012, your first year in the SEC? That OL you had in the Big 12 too..
How do you explain Missouri winning the division in 2013 and 2014, the 2nd and 3rd year in the SEC?
I get what you are saying. and I 100% believe there is a big difference in the trenches, but it clearly can be matched or overcome.
If Texas comes in and goes 6-2 in conference games, or better.. how do you explain that?
This post was edited on 9/18/23 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 9/18/23 at 10:40 pm to BigBro
One of the best ever, perfect gif for the situation memes
Posted on 9/18/23 at 10:44 pm to Dratini
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Auburn played that team to the wire, not because they were good,
First downvote
or 26th
This post was edited on 9/18/23 at 10:46 pm
Posted on 9/18/23 at 10:49 pm to Aggie in TN
Why do you guys think you are the authority on the SEC style play and moving conferences? Just like when you and Texas moved to the Big 12. Despite nearly identical resources. Their mileage was much different than yours.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 10:54 pm to off_season
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Why do you guys think you are the authority on the SEC style play and moving conferences? Just like when you and Texas moved to the Big 12. Despite nearly identical resources. Their mileage was much different than yours.
easy answer.. they view us as equals at best.. but most (not all) believe that they have a better program now and going forward for the rest of time
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