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re: The Official Fire John L Smith Thread
Posted on 9/17/12 at 6:35 pm to Jon Ham
Posted on 9/17/12 at 6:35 pm to Jon Ham
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The Official Fire John L Smith Thread
1) He's an embarrassment
2) He's senile
3) He's a terrible coach
4) He's a lame duck anyway
The quicker he gets taken down as the face of our program, the quicker we can start the healing process. IDGAF who is promoted to HC for the rest of the season as long as it's not Paul "air it out with our 3rd best QB with a lead against ULM" Petrino.
I think that all your criticisms existed at the time of this hire, which was widely lauded by some Hog fans because it would keep the status quo.
At the time of the hiring, numerous posters suggested that Hog fans should temper their expectations. Those posters were ignored and ridiculed.
Truth is, the Hogs lost their best 3 defensive players, Bequette DE, Franklin LB, and Thomas S. This was off of what was a good for ARKY defense that was below average in the SEC. Combine that with the loss of three NFL receivers and your HC, who functioned as playcaller and you have a situation that no reasonable person could consider was an improvement over the 2011 team.
But Hog fans irrationally believed that the return of Knile Davis and home field advantage v. ALA and LSU would be worth say, 40 points per game and would be outcome determinative. Davis thru 3 games has been a shell of himself, your QB is concussed, and your defense couldn't stop JSU or ULM.
Now you have a lame duck leader who was hired to keep the status quo, who is not empowered to change anything. This dumpster fire can only be salvaged by Tyler Wilson, who has to be able to contribute by actually playing QB. Otherwise, this season looks lost.
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Posted on 9/17/12 at 6:41 pm to DC RaiseHerBack
Wait... where's the official Fire Gene Chizik thread?
Posted on 9/17/12 at 6:54 pm to jddawg58
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Truth is, the Hogs lost their best 3 defensive players, Bequette DE, Franklin LB, and Thomas S. This was off of what was a good for ARKY defense that was below average in the SEC.
Sad but true
Posted on 9/17/12 at 6:55 pm to jddawg58
who gives a turkey
Posted on 9/17/12 at 6:55 pm to Jon Ham
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1) He's an embarrassment
2) He's senile
3) He's a terrible coach
Tell me about it...
Posted on 9/17/12 at 6:58 pm to jddawg58
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I think that all your criticisms existed at the time of this hire, which was widely lauded by some Hog fans because it would keep the status quo. At the time of the hiring, numerous posters suggested that Hog fans should temper their expectations. Those posters were ignored and ridiculed. Truth is, the Hogs lost their best 3 defensive players, Bequette DE, Franklin LB, and Thomas S. This was off of what was a good for ARKY defense that was below average in the SEC. Combine that with the loss of three NFL receivers and your HC, who functioned as playcaller and you have a situation that no reasonable person could consider was an improvement over the 2011 team. But Hog fans irrationally believed that the return of Knile Davis and home field advantage v. ALA and LSU would be worth say, 40 points per game and would be outcome determinative. Davis thru 3 games has been a shell of himself, your QB is concussed, and your defense couldn't stop JSU or ULM. Now you have a lame duck leader who was hired to keep the status quo, who is not empowered to change anything. This dumpster fire can only be salvaged by Tyler Wilson, who has to be able to contribute by actually playing QB. Otherwise, this season looks lost.
Precisely. Not to mention, firing the interim as a knee jerk reaction won't get anything done. Chances are, the reality of the situation feels much more dire than it actually is, and things will level off. What would hiring someone else fix? If they promote someone from within, that person should already be stepping up and offering leadership. If they hire someone from the outside for 2 months, they still have another new coach to get in addition to the new interim...not to mention, a whole new rapport must be built. If that coach fails, will he be fired too?
Sometimes people have to sit through a mess before it gets better. Alabama was preseason #3 in 2000 and went 3-8. That wasn't fun. People knew this was a very real possibility, and because it's coming true doesn't justify a knee-jerk reaction. It was an awful situation to walk into.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 7:00 pm to Bellabama
I believe that Alabama fans shouldn't ever be able to tell another program how "bad" it is
And yes one of your three wins that year was against Ole Miss
And yes one of your three wins that year was against Ole Miss
Posted on 9/17/12 at 7:02 pm to ArHog
do arky fans really want to trust making a coaching hire to long?
his hires got them in this mess in the first place and then he treated arky like his personal bank account to help a friend in need
his hires got them in this mess in the first place and then he treated arky like his personal bank account to help a friend in need
Posted on 9/17/12 at 7:03 pm to DMagic
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I believe that Alabama fans shouldn't ever be able to tell another program how "bad" it is
And yes one of your three wins that year was against Ole Miss
That's only in hindsight. It wasn't that long ago that people were saying Alabama was a terrible job with unrealistic expectations and we would never be anything but mediocre. We went through 4 coaches in 3 years...
Posted on 9/17/12 at 7:03 pm to heartbreakTiger
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do arky fans really want to trust making a coaching hire to long?
his hires got them in this mess in the first place and then he treated arky like his personal bank account to help a friend in need
His judgment has been less than exemplary.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 7:08 pm to Bellabama
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That's only in hindsight
Whomever thought that a program like Alabama would be down for long are dumbasses. Yall print money in that athletic department.
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We went through 4 coaches in 3 years
That was just a series of unfortunate events
Posted on 9/17/12 at 7:11 pm to DMagic
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Whomever thought that a program like Alabama would be down for long are dumbasses. Yall print money in that athletic department.
I know, but for Alabama fans, who've never had to learn to enjoy football just for the atmosphere, it was a trying time.
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That was just a series of unfortunate events
All we could do was laugh then, but now, looking back, it's really funny.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 7:13 pm to Jon Ham
Posted on 9/17/12 at 7:16 pm to Bellabama
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who've never had to learn to enjoy football just for the atmosphere, it was a trying time.
I can't tell if that was a backhanded way of insulting Ole Miss
Posted on 9/17/12 at 7:31 pm to DMagic
JLS should be fired just for his demeanor and f/u attitude.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 7:37 pm to reel_gator8
Fire up that airplane tracker BS. Nashville to LR.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 7:58 pm to faxis
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Yall just ain't got your piss hot enough yet.
I lol'd
Posted on 9/17/12 at 7:58 pm to Jon Ham
you sure this is the official thread?
Cause like, I've seen hundreds of these things all over the place. And most of them have NOT been made in China....
Cause like, I've seen hundreds of these things all over the place. And most of them have NOT been made in China....
Posted on 9/18/12 at 8:31 am to Jon Ham
i still can't believe he came out to the presser telling people to "smile" W. T. F.
Posted on 9/18/12 at 8:40 am to trillhog
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Truth is, the Hogs lost their best 3 defensive players, Bequette DE, Franklin LB, and Thomas S. This was off of what was a good for ARKY defense that was below average in the SEC. Combine that with the loss of three NFL receivers and your HC, who functioned as playcaller and you have a situation that no reasonable person could consider was an improvement over the 2011 team. But Hog fans irrationally believed that the return of Knile Davis and home field advantage v. ALA and LSU would be worth say, 40 points per game and would be outcome determinative. Davis thru 3 games has been a shell of himself, your QB is concussed, and your defense couldn't stop JSU or ULM. Now you have a lame duck leader who was hired to keep the status quo, who is not empowered to change anything. This dumpster fire can only be salvaged by Tyler Wilson, who has to be able to contribute by actually playing QB. Otherwise, this season looks lost.
The truth is the truth hurts and I agree.
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