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re: The "New" SEC at 25 years - Ranking the programs since the 1st Expansion of 1992
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:15 pm to Commander Data
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:15 pm to Commander Data
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Would swap Tennessee and Auburn but it's pretty close.
Agree. Think their 2004 team and 2014 national championship appearance need to be a factor.
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:17 pm to Korin
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Maybe you shouldn't have shite the bed against Ron Zook? Maybe you shouldn't have lost to a 6-6 South Carolina team (who didn't even go bowling) at home? Maybe you should've clocked the ball in the SEC title game?
Maybe yall shouldn't have lost your last regular season game in 96?
Maybe yall shouldn't have lost to auburn in 06?
Maybe yall shouldn't have lost to a 4-loss ole miss team at home in 08?
Oh, wait...yall actually did lose all those games yet were still national champs those years. That's what I'm talking about you dolt, instances where teams like the above lost games but still got a chance for a title. And there are many more examples. Yet in a painfully rare occurrence where we were in that position, we did not get those breaks. It's not hard to comprehend.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:18 pm to UBamaJelly
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Agree. Think their 2004 team and 2014 national championship appearance need to be a factor.
I agree with that but the flip side could be that Tennessee had a 5 year run from 1995 to 1999 where they went 54-8 and 35-5 in the SEC, finishing in the Top 5 all 5 years. Nobody outside of Florida and Alabama has had a 5 year run like that. They just happened to be in the same division with Florida during their all-time run.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:22 pm to WG_Dawg
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Maybe yall shouldn't have lost your last regular season game in 96?
Maybe yall shouldn't have lost to auburn in 06?
Maybe yall shouldn't have lost to a 4-loss ole miss team at home in 08?
Oh, wait...yall actually did lose all those games yet were still national champs those years. That's what I'm talking about you dolt, instances where teams like the above lost games but still got a chance for a title. And there are many more examples. Yet in a painfully rare occurrence where we were in that position, we did not get those breaks. It's not hard to comprehend.
Beat Ron Zook and you're there.
Beat 6-6 South Carolina and you're in the SEC title game.
Clock the ball against Alabama and who knows what happens.
This is stuff that actually happened that YOU had control over. The only team that can say they were unlucky is 04 Auburn.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:25 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Auburn/Tennessee/Georgia could all be argued at #4 for sure.
No because UGA has no title in those years. Sorry. Its AU, UT then UGA. Facts and shite.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:43 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I couldn't help but notice undefeated seasons was not included...
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:51 pm to jvilletiger25
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I couldn't help but notice undefeated seasons was not included...
Well, they were included in the overall numbers, but you are right they could be. It's kind of a quirky stat that Auburn has had 2 of them in non-title seasons, but it does help their argument for sure. I also left off 10 win seasons, losing seasons and other thresholds that would hurt schools that were up and down (like Auburn and Alabama, for that matter).
This post was edited on 4/19/17 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:52 pm to SummerOfGeorge
just a couple of things:
Missouri has played in 4 CCG therefore they have 4 division titles.
Texas A&M has 1 Big XII title.
Missouri has played in 4 CCG therefore they have 4 division titles.
Texas A&M has 1 Big XII title.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:53 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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It's kind of a quirky stat that Auburn has had 2 of them in non-title seasons
Can't help that the AP loves to frick Auburn. 1983, 1993, 2004
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:59 pm to jvilletiger25
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Can't help that the AP loves to frick Auburn. 1983, 1993, 2004
- 1983 sure
- 1993 was not a frick job. Auburn's schedule was pretty meh and they didn't even have to play Florida again or a bowl game because of probation.
- 2004 just sucked for Auburn because there were 2 teams who started ahead of them that finished undefeated and had solid schedules.
But, those years should carry some weight for sure.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:04 pm to SummerOfGeorge
1. Alabama
2. Florida
3. LSU
4. Auburn
5. Tennessee
6. Georgia
7. A&M
8. Arkansas
9. Missouri
10. South Carolina
11. Mississippi State
12. Ole Miss
13. Kentucky
14. Vanderbilt
2. Florida
3. LSU
4. Auburn
5. Tennessee
6. Georgia
7. A&M
8. Arkansas
9. Missouri
10. South Carolina
11. Mississippi State
12. Ole Miss
13. Kentucky
14. Vanderbilt
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:10 pm to Korin
quote:Dude you sure are getting alot out of that win
Sorry you don't like facts?
What happened to LSU beating us by 30+ like you claimed? I thought we were pussies?
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:21 pm to lsupride87
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Dude you sure are getting alot out of that win
This bird has some anger issues. A basically entertaining yet light thread and he manages to get into some pillow fight with fans of 4 different SEC teams.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:23 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Thoughts?
9. MISSOURI
10. SOUTH CAROLINA
11. OLE MISS
12. MISSISSIPPI STATE
13. KENTUCKY
14. VANDERBILT
Shirts don't print themselves you know!
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:40 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Mississippi State should be ranked number one for all the the bad coaches that got Croomed allowing better coaches to be hired. you guys are really unappreciative.
This post was edited on 4/19/17 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:41 pm to UBamaJelly
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Would swap Tennessee and Auburn but it's pretty close.
quote:The Auburn bedshitting's of 1998 and 2012 (1-15 in the SEC) diminishes the 2004/2014 super seasons and propels the Vols to take a narrow lead.
Agree. Think their 2004 team and 2014 national championship appearance need to be a factor.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:41 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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1. ALABAMA : 5 National Titles, 7 SEC Titles, 11 SECCG Appearances, 22 Bowl/Playoff Games, 66.9% SEC Win, 69.2% Overall Win
2. FLORIDA : 3 National Titles, 7 SEC Titles, 12 SECCG Appearances, 24 Bowl Games, 74.5% SEC Win, 74.4% Overall Win
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11. OLE MISS : 0 National Title, 0 SEC Title, 0 SECCG Appearances, 40.0% SEC Win, 53.5% Overall Win
12. MISSISSIPPI STATE : 0 National Title, 0 SEC Title, 1 SECCG Appearances, 39.1% SEC Win, 50.0% Overall Win
Seems like you are putting more weight on winning percentage than on division titles when comparing Ole Miss and MSU, but then you went the other way on national titles when comparing Alabama and Florida. I'm not saying it's wrong to do that, but that certainly seems to be what you're doing.
Also, I'm curious why you listed the number of bowl games for the top 8, but not for the other six.
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3. LSU
Amazing that LSU has been the 3rd best over that particular time frame (and I agree with you on that ranking), considering that the first eight years of the time frame fell during (and included most of) by far the darkest time in our football history (1989 through 1999).
This post was edited on 4/19/17 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:48 pm to Nuts4LSU
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Seems like you are putting more weight on winning percentage than on division titles when comparing Ole Miss and MSU, but then you went the other way on national titles when comparing Alabama and Florida. I'm not saying it's wrong to do that, but that certainly seems to be what you're doing.
I don't really consider division titles in the same stratosphere as SEC or National Titles, so I look at Ole Miss and State pretty much as the same in the "titles category".
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Also, I'm curious why you listed the number of bowl games for the top 8, but not for the other six.
Honestly? Because I literally forgot on the next ones hahaha.
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Amazing that LSU has been the 3rd best over that particular time frame (and I agree with you on that ranking), considering that the first eight years of the time frame fell during (and included most of) by far the darkest time in our football history (1989 through 1999).
Yea, everyone except Florida and really Georgia has had some ugly patches. Tennessee, Alabama, LSU, Auburn all had some dark 4-6 year periods over the last 25 years.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:50 pm to lsupride87
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Dude you sure are getting alot out of that win
I'm not the one who made up some story about rescuing my uncle's drinking buddy from Gainesville after LSU lost.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:53 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Looking forward to LSU taking over that #2 spot soon!
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