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The NCAA is a total failure
Posted on 7/12/24 at 9:44 am
Posted on 7/12/24 at 9:44 am
Not that it's news to anyone, but total incompetence on every level. From flipping a coin to see who gets waivers to petty infractions in the past (someone buying a player lunch at a fast food joint) to not punish players who cheat before bowl games until after the game is played, from vacating wins instead of awarding the other team the win, to having rules for establishing conference championship games which the SEC followed by adding two teams, only to allow other conferences to get out of the same requirement (see Big 12), they have been pitiful.
Then we have the conference issue. If the NCAA had any foresight whatsoever, they would have been miles ahead of this and attempted to come up with a broad and equitable plan keeping rivalries in place in a geographically sane order.
Then we have NIL and the portal where the athletes get every advantage that the NFL has but even more as there is no salary cap and they can move whenever they want essentially. Now we have the big donors essentially buying players and as of yesterday it looks as if players may well be considered employees and the amateur status is essentially history.
I realize the NCAA is somewhat limited by the college presidents and ADs and the TV networks have played a huge role but it seems they have not done their due diligence in any matter of significance. They've allowed college athletics to rot from the inside while arguing how many scholarships baseball teams should be able to give and the list goes on and on.
I wish someone else could take control and give us (athletes, fans and schools) hope for the future.
Then we have the conference issue. If the NCAA had any foresight whatsoever, they would have been miles ahead of this and attempted to come up with a broad and equitable plan keeping rivalries in place in a geographically sane order.
Then we have NIL and the portal where the athletes get every advantage that the NFL has but even more as there is no salary cap and they can move whenever they want essentially. Now we have the big donors essentially buying players and as of yesterday it looks as if players may well be considered employees and the amateur status is essentially history.
I realize the NCAA is somewhat limited by the college presidents and ADs and the TV networks have played a huge role but it seems they have not done their due diligence in any matter of significance. They've allowed college athletics to rot from the inside while arguing how many scholarships baseball teams should be able to give and the list goes on and on.
I wish someone else could take control and give us (athletes, fans and schools) hope for the future.
This post was edited on 7/12/24 at 9:46 am
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Posted on 7/12/24 at 9:49 am to Arkyologist
Sec and big10 should form a new one
Posted on 7/12/24 at 9:57 am to Arkyologist
It has always been an organization that was uneven and capricious at best in its application of Byzantine rules.
It is a relic of an age where some were punished severely for perceived violations while others could do whatever they wanted. Hopefully Satan has a TV for Walter Byars to watch the NCAA get their arse handed to them while Walter burns for eternity.
It is a relic of an age where some were punished severely for perceived violations while others could do whatever they wanted. Hopefully Satan has a TV for Walter Byars to watch the NCAA get their arse handed to them while Walter burns for eternity.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 11:14 am to Arkyologist
The NCAA is the love child of the Soviet Union and Communist China.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 11:24 am to Arkyologist
NIL stems from court rulings and the portal stems from fear of court rulings
I have no use for the NCAA but the mess we’re in now stems from this becoming a jillion dollar business and the people who are actually putting their necks and asses on the line deciding they wanted a cut of the action.
And fans cling to the pipe dream that they ought to be satisfied with tuition, room, board and medical coverage and feel honored to perform for their entertainment and for the glory of their university and their state.
That ship’s done sailed and, again, the money is the biggest reason. But for years everyone was getting off on how big the TV money, etc., was getting, not thinking of the eventual and inevitable ramifications.
I have no use for the NCAA but the mess we’re in now stems from this becoming a jillion dollar business and the people who are actually putting their necks and asses on the line deciding they wanted a cut of the action.
And fans cling to the pipe dream that they ought to be satisfied with tuition, room, board and medical coverage and feel honored to perform for their entertainment and for the glory of their university and their state.
That ship’s done sailed and, again, the money is the biggest reason. But for years everyone was getting off on how big the TV money, etc., was getting, not thinking of the eventual and inevitable ramifications.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 11:27 am to Arkyologist
NCAA fricked this up in the mid 00s. They should have packaged their rights as one bundle and sold it NFL style, spread that money across conferences. Should have been 1 product. 07 was tGOAT season.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 11:38 am to Arkyologist
I agree it's always sucked
Posted on 7/12/24 at 11:59 am to RogerTempleton
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NCAA fricked this up in the mid 00s. They should have packaged their rights as one bundle and sold it NFL style, spread that money across conferences. Should have been 1 product. 07 was tGOAT season.
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June 27, 1984: The Supreme Court ruled in favor of Oklahoma and Georgia, saying that institutions owned their television rights and that the NCAA's television contracts violated federal antitrust laws.
We are in this mess because of the very nature of college football itself. I'm not even sure how you even fix it, short of divorcing college football from the Universities.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 12:18 pm to Socratics
The NCAA is the governing body of the member schools, they are the AD's & School presidents. They enforce the rules established by the member schools.
Once this massive class action lawsuit is concluded, schools & conferences will revamp the whole system, they intend to give the governing body subpoena power and fans will hate them having that kind of power.
Once this massive class action lawsuit is concluded, schools & conferences will revamp the whole system, they intend to give the governing body subpoena power and fans will hate them having that kind of power.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 12:21 pm to Arkyologist
It was fine until the government got involved.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 1:37 pm to Arkyologist
NCAA is so disfunctional that if it wasn't for spell check they would mispell "NCAA".
They are completely inept in todays college landscape.
They are completely inept in todays college landscape.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 2:02 pm to InkStainedWretch
By getting will Wade fired and allowing bill self to skate
Posted on 7/12/24 at 2:24 pm to 3down10
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It was fine until the government got involved.
They got involved because schools making billions while players got a scholarship and cost-of-living couldn't fly in court anymore.
What really fricked up college football was TV money and college presidents putting the short term well being of their program over the sport as a whole.
This is exactly why pro sports have commissioners, decision making has to be centralized or individual selfish actions will compound into serious problems.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 2:27 pm to Arkyologist
As bad as the leadership is at the NCAA it still isn't as bad as the leadership at the now defunct PAC-12 
Posted on 7/12/24 at 2:59 pm to 3down10
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It was fine until the government got involved.
I guess applying antitrust laws is technically the "government getting involved" but you don't get a 2.8 billion dollar antitrust settlement when everything is just "fine". Sounds like the athletes just wanted United States laws applied.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 3:01 pm to 3down10
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It was fine until the government got involved.
The only reason it existed was because the government got involved.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 3:03 pm to cardboardboxer
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They got involved because schools making billions while players got a scholarship and cost-of-living couldn't fly in court anymore.
False. The NIL has absolutely nothing to do with any of that, of which is still the rule. And people like you refuse to acknowledge the millions and millions of dollars that get spent on the athletes in other ways.
The fact you dismiss a scholarship as meaningless is pathetic. Go join the military and tell me how fricking bad it is. They serve 3 years and put their lives on the line just for the scholarship. frick you.
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What really fricked up college football was TV money and college presidents putting the short term well being of their program over the sport as a whole.
This is exactly why pro sports have commissioners, decision making has to be centralized or individual selfish actions will compound into serious problems.
Don't disagree with this, but it has nothing to do with the government being involved. It's just the other part that is screwing up college football.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 3:05 pm to jonnyanony
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The only reason it existed was because the government got involved.
I have no idea what you mean.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 3:11 pm to 3down10
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I have no idea what you mean.
The NCAA exists because the government wanted to intervene in the early 1900s and they wanted to keep the government out by assembling a facade of a self-regulating commission.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 3:13 pm to PeleofAnalytics
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I guess applying antitrust laws is technically the "government getting involved" but you don't get a 2.8 billion dollar antitrust settlement when everything is just "fine". Sounds like the athletes just wanted United States laws applied.
The NCAA does nothing to prevent competition, nor do they promote unfair business practices.
They got a 2.8 billon dollar antitrust settlement because this country is full of fricktard leftists who hate success and anything with money and think they need to steal it from it and destroy it.
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