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re: The most deserving player doesnt always win the Heisman
Posted on 11/30/23 at 8:49 pm to BevoBucks
Posted on 11/30/23 at 8:49 pm to BevoBucks
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He’d just brought pressure and forced Milroe into a mistake.
Honestly the mistake was Milroe not running against that 20+ yds of open field on 3rd
I wish his big black lines on the field filter were stronger, but it reeked of a Sept playcall mode for him
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 9:06 pm to Lord of the Hogs
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Darren McFadden was robbed twice
Heisman voters should feel ashamed about this
Posted on 11/30/23 at 9:10 pm to NolaTiger52
The Rocket got robbed.
Posted on 11/30/23 at 9:24 pm to BevoBucks
Zero blitz
DB’s suck anyways, so why not
DB’s suck anyways, so why not
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:00 am to 8clap
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Christian McCaffrey was robbed.
Okay you are officially the stupidest mother fricker out of all of these idiots. Mcwhitey was a rb first and foremost who had 7 rushing TDS total and 3 of those came against northwestern. I know he had some ap yards and scored but that doesn't hold a candle to the only sec rb in history with 2k yards.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:43 am to ChexMix
In fact, rarely does the most deserving win it. It's the "Most Outstanding Player..." in college football. The Heisman voters seem to think it's hard to be outstanding on a 9-3 team, as the focus is usually on the most outstanding player from one of the most outstanding teams with one of the best records. Alabama was undefeated in 2009, Stanford was 8-4 in the regular season. Ingram beat Gearhart by 23 votes.
Last time a Heisman winner had 2 conference losses and didn't play for their conference championship was Manziel in 2012. Of course you could argue he also had a signature win that year in Tuscaloosa over Alabama who was #1 at the time. What's Daniels' signature win this year? Mizzou?
Also - QB who was middling in the PAC-12 goes to LSU and markedly improves while in the SEC = Heisman candidate. QB who was middling/inconsistent in the SEC transfers to the PAC-12 and markedly improves = the PAC-12 is weak. How does that work?
Last time a Heisman winner had 2 conference losses and didn't play for their conference championship was Manziel in 2012. Of course you could argue he also had a signature win that year in Tuscaloosa over Alabama who was #1 at the time. What's Daniels' signature win this year? Mizzou?
Also - QB who was middling in the PAC-12 goes to LSU and markedly improves while in the SEC = Heisman candidate. QB who was middling/inconsistent in the SEC transfers to the PAC-12 and markedly improves = the PAC-12 is weak. How does that work?
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:58 am to ccsolee
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What's Daniels' signature win this year? Mizzou?
Playing with hurt ribs and leading his team to a comeback victory over a top 15 team?
One dirty play kept him from ATL this year. Save the talk about no comeback.
We saw it all year.
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Also - QB who was middling in the PAC-12 goes to LSU and markedly improves while in the SEC = Heisman candidate. QB who was middling/inconsistent in the SEC transfers to the PAC-12 and markedly improves = the PAC-12 is weak. How does that work?
Because as historically bad as LSU’s defense is, they’d be middle of the pac and PAC 12 champs.
This post was edited on 12/1/23 at 10:00 am
Posted on 12/1/23 at 10:06 am to ccsolee
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In fact, rarely does the most deserving win it. It's the "Most Outstanding Player..." in college football. The Heisman voters seem to think it's hard to be outstanding on a 9-3 team, as the focus is usually on the most outstanding player from one of the most outstanding teams with one of the best records. Alabama was undefeated in 2009, Stanford was 8-4 in the regular season. Ingram beat Gearhart by 23 votes.
Gerhart wasn't really statistically superior to Ingram, he just had a lot more rushing attempts.
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Last time a Heisman winner had 2 conference losses and didn't play for their conference championship was Manziel in 2012
Lamar Jackson didn't have 2 conference losses but did have 3 regular season losses and no championship game appearance.
Probably the best comparison for JD5.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 2:17 pm to SidewalkTiger
Daniels should win it this year
Posted on 12/1/23 at 3:23 pm to ChexMix
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Toby Gerhart - 1871 rushing yards, 28 TDs
Mark Ingram - 1658 rushing yards, 17 TDs
Playing in a championship game right before the vote matters and might hurt Daniels. Watch the 2009 SECCG between Florida and Alabama (1vs 2) and you'll see Ingram sew it up.
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