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Posted on 11/19/10 at 10:29 pm to AUmuse
Posted on 11/19/10 at 10:29 pm to AUmuse
I don't know if Cam will be ineligible or not. The bigger question, which renders Cam moot, is whether Auburn had a lack of institutional control when the McGregor and Colonial prosecutions wrap up.
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Posted on 11/20/10 at 3:39 am to prplhze2000
The casino pay out is not very far-fetched. Don't know if anyone has mentioned this,but former Birmingham mayor Larry Langford got his extra benefits from rigged electronic bingo machines.
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Posted on 11/20/10 at 6:04 am to prplhze2000
quote:The Lowder years were definitely suspect, but I understand that he is largely out of the picture at AU now.
I don't know if Cam will be ineligible or not. The bigger question, which renders Cam moot, is whether Auburn had a lack of institutional control when the McGregor and Colonial prosecutions wrap up.
I would be more concerned as an SEC fan that the SEC itself is turning a blind eye to any potential wrongdoing by Auburn or the Newtons. Slive doesn't seem the slightest bit interested or concerned about it.
Posted on 11/20/10 at 10:36 am to loweralabamatrojan
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Slive doesn't seem the slightest bit interested or concerned about it.
He's ALL IN.
Posted on 11/20/10 at 12:00 pm to loweralabamatrojan
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I would be more concerned as an SEC fan that the SEC itself is turning a blind eye to any potential wrongdoing by Auburn or the Newtons.
That is exactly why I asked these questions because, (I am an SEC Fan and I am concerned with the way this will cause others to look on the Conference as a whole) by/according to the media and all of College Football the SEC is considered the best Conference in College Football and I want it to stay that way because of the respect we have. At the same time it looks as if we have a Commish that does not want to or lend himself to these alligations and does not care how others look at our Conference if it causes the SEC to loose any money in the short term because of it. Here are those questions from my earlier post;
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How much of this did Mike Slive know last Saturday when Auburn made the decision to play Cam Newton and knowing that He had the powers to call Newton Ineligible to play?
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If so can Auburn get out from under this to a lesser extent by Auburn saying then with Mike Slive being our Commissioner then can Auburn say that he should have told them that more was known and tell them for the good of the University that I am going to make you sit him and lay to some extent some of the blame on Mike Slive and the SEC Office?
This post was edited on 11/20/10 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 11/20/10 at 12:18 pm to CaseyMc2
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The person who gave me this opinion knows far more about the NCAA rules and how the NCAA works than anyone on this board, or those giving opinions in the media.
Oh really. Like I said before, I think just about everyone, including the BOL person's friend, would be surprised at who some of these people on a site just like this one or BOL actually are. Also, did they not see the NCAA President's quote? He took a shot at bloggers, but he knows he's under the microscope like never before. He, and everyone else actually working this case, should be very concerned about bloggers because some of them are actually holding back just to see what the verdicts are, to see just what the hell these people at the schools, the SEC, the NCAA and even the feds do. If injustice is done, look for a firestorm of proof to be unleashed, starting on sites just like the SEC Rant and ending with irrefutable evidence that could cost people their livelihoods.
This post was edited on 11/20/10 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 11/20/10 at 1:52 pm to AUmuse
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He told me that in his opinion, it is very unlikely that Cam will be ruled ineligible if the only evidence uncovered is that his father solicited money for Cam's signature.
This is where I am confused, The NCAA is supposed to see Cecil Newton as an agent not as his father. Then, if that agent had any influence upon the players decision, which he did since Cam Newton was living in the agents house. Even Cecil saying he would like for Cam to go to a school that was closer to home would be an act of influence. It doesn't matter if Cam Newton knew anything or not.
So why is Cam Newton still eligible?
This post was edited on 11/20/10 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 11/20/10 at 2:04 pm to LarryDavid
he didn't take a shot at them so much as pointing out he has certain standards to follow and the problem with blogs. Some are good and document what they claim, others don't and get pretty irresponsible.
Posted on 11/20/10 at 5:10 pm to The Egg
One good way to judge someone's credibility is actually very simple. If someone does not care enough to even make an attempt at complying with accepted grammatical and syntax rules of the English language, it is likely they do not care enough to make any effort at fact-checking the information they are positing. For example, if you say "indicte," "alledge," "stature" (when you mean statute, but you don't even know that's what you mean), or something equally ridiculous, I know immediately that you know nothing about the legal system, and your pontifications on such are likely garbage.
Posted on 11/20/10 at 7:13 pm to Stanky Legg
Or, you don't have IEspell on your laptop at home, and you don't call your secretary to your house to make sure your posts are ok. :)
Posted on 11/20/10 at 7:43 pm to Stanky Legg
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One good way to judge someone's credibility is actually very simple. If someone does not care enough to even make an attempt at complying with accepted grammatical and syntax rules of the English language, it is likely they do not care enough to make any effort at fact-checking the information they are positing. For example, if you say "indicte," "alledge," "stature" (when you mean statute, but you don't even know that's what you mean), or something equally ridiculous, I know immediately that you know nothing about the legal system, and your pontifications on such are likely garbage.
Reminds me a lot of when Pat Dye met the author Harper Lee he asked her about her book "To Kill a Black Bird".
I bet she thought he was a fricking idiot. Idiots just like him are what have Auburn in the situation they are in right now. Redneck idiots are a problem but very wealthy redneck idiots like Pat Dye and Milton McGregor are a huge problem.
This post was edited on 11/20/10 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 11/20/10 at 8:06 pm to BamaScoop
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Reminds me a lot of when Pat Dye met the author Harper Lee he asked her about her book "To Kill a Black Bird".
You can't write shite that good.
And he was on the Board of Directors of one of the largest regional banks in the Southeastern US.
Posted on 11/20/10 at 8:11 pm to blueTunaTiger
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You can't write shite that good.
And he was on the Board of Directors of one of the largest regional banks in the Southeastern US.
That is a true story.
It is a comical thing when a redneck gets a ton of money, he immediately get credibility in a state like Alabama. Money is power no matter how you get it.
People like McGregor and Dye are tobacco chewing, arse scratching, rednecks but that is ok as long as you are rich.
Posted on 11/20/10 at 9:12 pm to LarryDavid
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The person who gave me this opinion knows far more about the NCAA rules and how the NCAA works than anyone on this board, or those giving opinions in the media.
Larry, where did I make this quote? Because I do not remember making it nor do I have it in My Posts page? Just asking so that I can read it for myself. I agree with you, because I like you never know who we are addressing and likewise they never know who they are addressing.
Posted on 11/20/10 at 9:42 pm to Stanky Legg
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One good way to judge someone's credibility is actually very simple. If someone does not care enough to even make an attempt at complying with accepted grammatical and syntax rules of the English language, it is likely they do not care enough to make any effort at fact-checking the information they are positing.
So according to you if someone misses or does not put a comma in the right place or happens to misspell a word then that alone will ruin that person's credibility? I am sure glad that when it comes time for me to meet my maker that I do not miss Heaven because I did not place more importance on where I placed a comma in this response to you.
You Sir, need to re-evaluate your purpose in life and remember all this is is a board where people say things with little or no thought into what they are saying. It is words put together from their thought process at the time they type it with no mind to person, place or things. The next time you type something to respond to what someone has said that you do not agree with that maybe they where just seeking a response from someone just to get a chat session going and nothing else. After all that is what this is a chat room to chat and Rant in, so Chat and Rant away!
Posted on 11/20/10 at 10:27 pm to CaseyMc2
Casey it was someone else posting something from BOL a few before your post. 
Actually, there are more than one set of rules. The AP Style Book is what newspaper writers use and it's different than standard (I just used an example in the sentence). Plus, it's a good thing James Joyce didn't adhere to the rules or he would have never penned "Ulysses" which introduced the stream of consciousness as a form of writing. I tell people don't be afraid to try something new - that's what you're supposed to do with knowledge. Otherwise, we'd be a pretty boring set of robots. And, what I thought was pretty entertaining, when you go into creative writing you learn the rules don't apply anymore. All that work - basically for nothing.
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syntax rules of the English language
Actually, there are more than one set of rules. The AP Style Book is what newspaper writers use and it's different than standard (I just used an example in the sentence). Plus, it's a good thing James Joyce didn't adhere to the rules or he would have never penned "Ulysses" which introduced the stream of consciousness as a form of writing. I tell people don't be afraid to try something new - that's what you're supposed to do with knowledge. Otherwise, we'd be a pretty boring set of robots. And, what I thought was pretty entertaining, when you go into creative writing you learn the rules don't apply anymore. All that work - basically for nothing.
This post was edited on 11/20/10 at 10:55 pm
Posted on 11/20/10 at 10:50 pm to loweralabamatrojan
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The Lowder years were definitely suspect, but I understand that he is largely out of the picture at AU now.
You must live in a cave if you think the Lowder years are in the past. Lowder is continuing to try and become appointed to the BoT at Auburn for life. He is the most powerful BoT member they have.
Posted on 11/20/10 at 10:54 pm to CaseyMc2
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[R]emember all this is is a board where people say things with little or no thought into what they are saying. It is words put together from their thought process at the time they type it with no mind to person, place or things.
Indeed. Precisely my point. You got it, without even realizing.
And by the way, Pat Dye is a UGA grad, so let's give credit where credit is due. But I assume you're not trying to start a pissing match over which Alabama university has the worst representation, because I'm not sure you can win that battle.
This post was edited on 11/20/10 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 11/21/10 at 9:44 am to Stanky Legg
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One good way to judge someone's credibility is actually very simple. If someone does not care enough to even make an attempt at complying with accepted grammatical and syntax rules of the English language,
I would have been more impressed if you'd separated the two sentences with a colon.
Posted on 11/21/10 at 12:14 pm to arlo
Nice
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