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re: The Most Awesome Thread about CamGate

Posted on 11/16/10 at 9:25 am to
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 11/16/10 at 9:25 am to
yo...sum up the newest helenatider posts my man
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
48423 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 9:30 am to
In regards to your timeline, I know we're trying to keep things consolidated as to direct ties to Auburn, Lowder, and pay-for-play, but I feel like there needs to be a Chapter 5 - purely for speculative reasons - which details some of the recent and past developments with Fine Getty Assoc., Tigers Unlimited, and Milton McGregor's involvement with Victoryland and state gambling interests. Otherwise What a piece of work this thread is. I just copied and pasted (and rightfully attributed the work to your name) that whole timeline and sent it to my dad
Posted by tuck
Member since Oct 2007
12653 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 9:33 am to
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btw, can anyone summarize helenatider's latest postings on BOL?
Nothing really new. He did say that one of the taped conversations went like this...

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They have a current AU coach on a 3 way call with one of these fellas. Saying "straight up, we just need 200k to finish out this class...is that all???yeah, book it top 3 crootin class for these Tigers... your the man...you know its how we do it".




I'll be honest. I take what HT says with a grain of salt. He's a nice guy and he may even know someone that can tell him certain info, but mainly he just recaps what has already been speculated ad nauseum. That little nugget got thrown out there because people were hammering him for not posting anything new.

People are hungry for any news they can get and they all want the whole story now. I think he goes to far to try and satisfy the masses and it gets him in trouble. It's just doesn't look like it's going to happen that way. This shite is going to take a while to sort out if there is some serious wrong-doing.
Posted by CamNeutered
Member since Nov 2010
445 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 9:33 am to
I just lost my virginity.
Posted by cyde
He gone
Member since Nov 2005
31877 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 9:37 am to
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If Tubberville rolled over on Auburn this would all become legendary.

If Tubby sang, we'd all be telling our grandkids the story of how Auburn died.

ETA: Yeah, I fell a bit behind with the thread. I have some make-up reading to do.
This post was edited on 11/16/10 at 9:38 am
Posted by Capooth
Memphis, TN
Member since Jul 2009
823 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 9:41 am to
This thread is more addicting then crack, goldfish (the snack), and Oregon Trail combined.
Posted by flomacanes
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
2847 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 9:45 am to
Just jumped back into this thread this morning. I left it yesterday on about page 33. Is there any new info that I need to go back and read after pg33?
Posted by Carolinacajun
Davidson County Jail
Member since Oct 2003
12034 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 9:46 am to
Auburn/Alabama nursing home ESPN add

If they did one today, there would be a shooting.

This is definately a better read then "It Never Rains in Tiger Stadium."
Posted by Bamapossum
Alabama
Member since Jan 2006
1106 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 9:47 am to
Dude, You have got to be committed to the W&L thread...ALL IN...

Summarizing is for weaklings.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
48423 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 9:47 am to
If you're interested in a rough transcript of Terry Bowden's interview about the inner-workings of AUburn, I'd highly suggest jumping back a few pages. Pretty damn fascinating stuff
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83045 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 9:49 am to
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Nothing really new. He did say that one of the taped conversations went like this...


quote:


They have a current AU coach on a 3 way call with one of these fellas. Saying "straight up, we just need 200k to finish out this class...is that all???yeah, book it top 3 crootin class for these Tigers... your the man...you know its how we do it".
what the?
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
13920 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 9:49 am to
Just getting caught up on all of this again from overnight. Wanted to address a couple of things asked/stated.

lsualum01
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Is this the same Paul Davis that owns/writes for the Tuskegee news that reported of the wiretaps and federal charges that is linked above? He mentioned the "Pay for play" allegations in October.

Yes, this is the same Paul Davis. Davis is a bit of an odd bird, he used to (and may still I don't know) write for the Opelika-Auburn News. I know he wrote for them in the late 90s and early 2000s when I was a student. He was one of Lowder's laudest critics, and would often write scathing op-ed pieces on him. He also seemed to sometimes cross over into the paranoid in some of his claims. On at least one occasion, if not more, he claimed that Lowder and his "cronies" had tapped his phone and left sniper bullets in his mailbox or on his doorstep as a warning to back off.

BamaGradinTn
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The fact that Lowder and Franklin are still allowed on campus is glaring testimony of how stupid the people running Auburn really are.
Do you understand how the board of trustees works? The board members are appointed by the governor and confirmed by the state legislature, much like cabinet positions in the federal government. The BoT then makes the decisions on hiring the University President, Atheltic Director, etc. It's not like Auburn people are praising Lowder or Franklin, but as I said in an earlier post, until their friends and cohorts in Montgomery are removed from power, there is nothing Auburn can do.

As for current members of the board (from AU website:
Robert E. Lowder District 2
James W. Rane District 3
Virginia N. Thompson District 3 - Lee County
Dwight L. Carlisle District 4
Gaines Lanier District 5
Sarah B. Newton District 7
John G. Blackwell District 8 President Pro Tempore
Byron P. Franklin District 9
Samuel L. Ginn At-Large
Raymond J. Harbert At-Large
Charles D. McCrary At-Large
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91271 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 9:49 am to
The serial comma, often referred to as an Oxford comma, Harvard comma, or series comma, is the comma used immediately before the coordinating conjunction in a list. Outside of journalistic writing, it is almost always used. It is thought that journalism manuals avoid the serial comma in order to conserve space.

Enough comma talk. I think I am going to put together a W&L Cheat Sheet with every name mentioned in the thread along with the possible connections attributed to said person. Problem is at work I can only view sports websites in 6 10minute increments, so if anyone cares to assist, let me know what pages you are going to address.
This post was edited on 11/16/10 at 9:59 am
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
48423 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 9:51 am to
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Nothing really new. He did say that one of the taped conversations went like this...


quote:


They have a current AU coach on a 3 way call with one of these fellas. Saying "straight up, we just need 200k to finish out this class...is that all???yeah, book it top 3 crootin class for these Tigers... your the man...you know its how we do it".


Gotta be trooper
Posted by plawmac
Member since Dec 2007
3210 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 9:54 am to
Man, nice to see Alabama giving Louisiana a run for the title of dumbest politicians. Having Lowder still on the Board at AU, is akin to La. placing a soon to be released from prison EWE appointed to the state gambling board. Gotta love it...
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
34357 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 10:00 am to
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This is definately a better read then "It Never Rains in Tiger Stadium."
thats not hard to do, that book was more uncomfotable than anything. severely overrated by Tiger fans
Posted by Carolinacajun
Davidson County Jail
Member since Oct 2003
12034 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 10:02 am to
quote:

This is definately a better read then "It Never Rains in Tiger Stadium."


thats not hard to do, that book was more uncomfotable than anything. severely overrated by Tiger fans

Yes and I am not sure if John Ed ever used an Oxford comma I know it's too complex for me.
Posted by cyde
He gone
Member since Nov 2005
31877 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 10:08 am to
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RollTideTA

Hahaha, could I get a copy of that Certificate with the name line blank?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91271 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 10:10 am to
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I am not sure if John Ed ever used an Oxford comma I know it's too complex for me.




This thread has a little bit of the "Grassy Knoll Second Shooter" mixed with a little bit of "We Did NOT Land on the Moon in July 1969", topped with a slice of "Illuminati Control the World" and a dash of "The Philadelphia Experiment" for good measure.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
107404 posts
Posted on 11/16/10 at 10:10 am to
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When I got here Lowder said don’t talk to Muse, he’s weak and his wife is a n----r lover. Lowder told me John Denson was trying to kill him. The last week I was coach: Monday - The Huntsville Tmes runs a story that says an undisclosed sources says that Bowden has lost the confidence of the Board of Trustees and he must win four of the last five games to keep his job.

I lied to my staff and told them that I had talked to Lowder, the story was not true and everything was OK. I was trying to keep up morale. Tuesday - (Defensive coordinator Bill) Oliver brings a hidden tape recorder into our coaches meeting. I believe this was because Lowder wanted to have proof that I told a lie about talking to him the day before. Wednesday - I had a 7 a.m. meeting with Housel.

He asked if I had seen the article in the Huntsville Times. He said he had talked to Lowder, and Lowder wanted me to know that he was the undisclosed source.




I imagine Terry Bowden had to have been fearing for his life at some point. It is clear now why he has never gone back to coaching after that experience.

Lowder is pond scum.
This post was edited on 11/16/10 at 10:11 am
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