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re: The future of NCAA football

Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:44 pm to
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12400 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:44 pm to
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Unless the playing field is leveled in a noticeable fashion the decline in interest will continue.
That’s reality, like it or not.

Less fans will bother attending games in person.


You really need to understand what is driving the current model. This is a big business and the interest continues to grow hence why so many large TV contracts that were never there before for these conferences.

The interest is not declining and the ratings demonstrate that along with the sponsorship.
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
12237 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:04 pm to
There's no parity at all in college ball. Since coalescing into a playoff, college football has become subject to the pareto distribution. That's why there same 4 or 5 teams make the playoffs and why the bowl games are not only meaningless but not worth playing anymore. The concentration of talent is among 4 - 6 teams because the players know those teams are the only shot they'll have to play in the playoff. The other teams only get the scraps. It's killing college ball. Of that aren't going to expand it to 16 teams, then they should just play a round-robin among those 4 and let the other teams form another division. The current playoffs are fricking boring.
Posted by droliver
Member since Nov 2012
976 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:04 pm to
People thinking you'll get more parity by expanding the playoffs haven't paid attention to the 16!team D2/D3 playoffs where you actually have even more dominance by 2-3 teams going on for the last 2 decades then you see in D1
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37663 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:21 pm to
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Simple, reduce scholarships to 70, hdll even 65


Stop this is stupid. Injuries, no depth. There’s a reason rosters have the numbers they have now. You simply haven’t thought this through. You want 70 for parity and for the fans. For the teams and for roster management and attrition it’s a nightmare. Horrible idea that dilutes the game.
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3687 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:22 pm to
People lose interest because their team is mediocre.

The team is mediocre because they hire bad coaches.

They hire bad coaches because they are a poorly run organization.

They are poorly run because they are fatccats with the conference TV contracts, zero motivation to change. Vandy gets just as much as Alabama. (Alabama gets a token amount more b/c of the Rose but you get the idea.)
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 1:03 am to
Something we learned this season which would make a big difference is you don’t need a schedule 10 years out.......it is entirely possible to play more conference games, and about Halloween or the middle of November schedule a 16 team or more team tournament, higher seeded team hosting, culminating in a final between the last 2 standing about the middle of January. Scheduling ain’t nearly as impossible as they make out......BYU and Coastal Carolina nailed that coffin shut.


I don’t think it makes much difference though.....outside of an outlier like 2019 LSU CFB is usually a couple of blatantly obvious better teams and everybody else......and those 2 teams are usually going to be better than everybody else for several years. The outlier team is rare and getting rarer......
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
2740 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 1:10 am to
I think you’re missing the point of expanding playoffs to 16 or 24. It may not guarantee a different outcome but creates excitement/hope. Think of high school ball if only 4 teams went. Could you imagine what an excitement killer that would be for the vast majority of high school teams. The same teams may win in the D2/D3 playoffs, but the 24 team playoff field creates excitement/hope for many other teams.
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 1:15 am to
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You really need to understand what is driving the current model. This is a big business and the interest continues to grow hence why so many large TV contracts that were never there before for these conferences.

The interest is not declining and the ratings demonstrate that along with the sponsorship.




Is it sustainable? Large swaths of the country could care less. Bowl games were empty before the playoffs. In person attendance is down and kids don’t play football like they did 20 years ago. The only thing keeping TV money flowing is there ain’t no competition.....if interest wanes TV money will also. People don’t care in the NW, the entirety of the Pacific Coast and most of the plains and mountain states......CFB is basically the SEC, Clemson, ND and Ohio State and Oklahoma. Most of the SEC don’t have any pro sports so that helps keep college sports regionally interesting......but it ain’t enough, in my opinion. I don’t think we recognize CFB 20 years from now......
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
16964 posts
Posted on 1/1/21 at 1:39 am to
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There's no parity at all in college ball. Since coalescing into a playoff, college football has become subject to the pareto distribution. That's why there same 4 or 5 teams make the playoffs and why the bowl games are not only meaningless but not worth playing anymore. The concentration of talent is among 4 - 6 teams because the players know those teams are the only shot they'll have to play in the playoff. The other teams only get the scraps. It's killing college ball. Of that aren't going to expand it to 16 teams, then they should just play a round-robin among those 4 and let the other teams form another division. The current playoffs are fricking boring.

Problem is that top recruiting classes normally are the ones that will be ranked at the top and that is how they normally ranked them. If recruits were evenly spread out then it will make sense to have a bigger playoff teams set up than have only 4 teams.
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