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re: The “Freedom From Religion Foundation” warns Auburn University
Posted on 9/22/23 at 5:30 am to Globetrotter747
Posted on 9/22/23 at 5:30 am to Globetrotter747
God is pro life! Except for all humanity he drowned except Noah & some farm animals.
You can tell he cares about children and babies because he killed all the firstborn sons in Egypt! Weeee!
You can tell he cares about children and babies because he killed all the firstborn sons in Egypt! Weeee!
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Posted on 9/22/23 at 5:31 am to DyeHardDylan
Agurn has the two biggest sleeze balls ever running thier football and basketball programs.
Which comes to shock nobody.
Which comes to shock nobody.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 5:41 am to DyeHardDylan
The whole letter they cite is intentionally misinterpreted. Jefferson's warning was not that the church would take over the state, but rather the state would take over the church. As we have seen in England, Sweden, with disastrous results.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 7:25 am to DyeHardDylan
The Supreme Court would disagree that what happened is unconstitutional since they just ruled in favor of a high school coach who was fired for praying on the field after games. The Freedom from Religion Foundation are totally wrong to say this was unconstitutional.
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Posted on 9/22/23 at 7:46 am to Bamarap
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He is not a priest or ordained pastor.
You don't have to be a priest, pastor or ordained minister of any type to Baptize someone.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 7:56 am to ucbearcats
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Coaches and teachers are employees of the schools and should not be taking part in religious events because of the separation of state and church.
You mean like attending a church/temple/synagogue/mosque/mandir and practicing their own faith?
This post was edited on 9/22/23 at 7:57 am
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:02 am to Heinrich H
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Heinrich H
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:04 am to TinGym
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The whole letter they cite is intentionally misinterpreted. Jefferson's warning was not that the church would take over the state, but rather the state would take over the church. As we have seen in England, Sweden, with disastrous results.
I don't think it is misinterpreted. Unless this group was not paying attention in U.S. History class, the motivation for this part of the 1st amendment was literally centuries of state sponsored discrimination or persecutions of citizens in Europe and elsewhere on the basis of religion (usually a "state religion").
James Madison put it well:
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It was the belief of all sects at one time that the establishment of Religion by law, was right & necessary; that the true religion ought to be established in exclusion of every other; And that the only question to be decided was which was the true religion.
We are teaching the world the great truth that Governments do better without Kings & Nobles than with them. The merit will be doubled by the other lesson that Religion flourishes in greater purity, without than with the aid of Gov. (Letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822).
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:06 am to Windy City
our city does a 40 Days of Prayer campaign every year with all the local churches and it's on social media and in the newspaper. This foundation tried to come in a few years back and stop it. They found out really quick that our community did not subscribe to their brand of liberal logic.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:17 am to five_fivesix
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whoa, you’re confusing this term with woke wackos. I’m an atheist and have taken an Oath to defended every American’s Right to worship whatever god they chose.
I'm in the same boat.
You can't celebrate other religions displaying their beliefs across campus, but scoff when Christians do it. At that point, you're not asking for "Freedom from Religion"...you're asking for "Freedom from Christianity".
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:25 am to BornAndRaised_LA
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If this is your worldview, and you have no issues proselytizing to those who don’t want it because you (not they) believe someone to be “living in sin”, then you absolutely cannot complain when an atheist (as dumb as they also might be) for pushing their views loudly into the public sphere.
1) It was totally voluntary, was it not?
Honest question. When was the last time someone witnessed to you for Christianity?
Answer this honestly.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:34 am to Windy City
You realize you just proved his point, right?
He said:
Madison said:
So Madison said that religion would flourish without the aid of government. In other words he did not want the state to mandate religion and take religion over.
He said:
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Jefferson's warning was not that the church would take over the state, but rather the state would take over the church.
Madison said:
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The merit will be doubled by the other lesson that Religion flourishes in greater purity, without than with the aid of Gov.
So Madison said that religion would flourish without the aid of government. In other words he did not want the state to mandate religion and take religion over.
This post was edited on 9/22/23 at 8:36 am
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:36 am to ucbearcats
Separation of Church and State is not found in any official document - it was in a letter written to the Danbury Baptist Church by Thomas Jefferson if I recall but had no authority whatsoever. If it did, then he was actually contradicting his own thoughts
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:40 am to Windy City
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The whole letter they cite is intentionally misinterpreted. Jefferson's warning was not that the church would take over the state, but rather the state would take over the church. As we have seen in England, Sweden, with disastrous results.
I don't think it is misinterpreted. Unless this group was not paying attention in U.S. History class, the motivation for this part of the 1st amendment was literally centuries of state sponsored discrimination or persecutions of citizens in Europe and elsewhere on the basis of religion (usually a "state religion").
James Madison put it well:
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It was the belief of all sects at one time that the establishment of Religion by law, was right & necessary; that the true religion ought to be established in exclusion of every other; And that the only question to be decided was which was the true religion.
We are teaching the world the great truth that Governments do better without Kings & Nobles than with them. The merit will be doubled by the other lesson that Religion flourishes in greater purity, without than with the aid of Gov. (Letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822).
So Madison quite literally says what the poster you quoted wrote, and you can't see that? You must be one of those people who voted for mayor Beetlejuice up there in the Windy City.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:42 am to DyeHardDylan
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He’s sinned, and he’s the first to say that. But he also knows and can speak to the power of redemption and Grace better than most
frick off, he is a hypocrite like most bible thumping people are. Do your good deeds. praying and worshiping in private, anyone that brings attention to themselves so others can say “what a good Christian” is someone untrustworthy.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:44 am to Craig86
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Imagine thinking as a grown adult dipping yourself in some water carries favor with a sky wizard.
Imagine being so lost as a presumably grown adult as to believe the words you typed. Prayers sent, Craig. And yes, you do need them.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:47 am to Heinrich H
quote:Mods are letting Nazis post here now?
Heinrich H
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:49 am to EarlyCuyler3
quote:Found the piece of shite that everyone in the forum hates.
Found the lunatic.
Before you started posting again I saw your name mentioned a dozen times. Always negative.
I might be a lunatic, but you are about the most hated shite stain of a human in this forum.
No surprise, you actually seem like a punk.
This post was edited on 9/22/23 at 9:16 am
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:50 am to That LSU Guy
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Mods are letting Nazis post here now?
They don't give a frick anymore. This thread being on page 9 is plenty of evidence of that.
This post was edited on 9/22/23 at 8:51 am
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:51 am to That LSU Guy
So, it’s illegal to voluntarily baptize but perfectly legal to promote sodomy and abortion on school grounds ? ok Marxist trash.
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