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re: The first sign of Alabama’s fall to mediocrity
Posted on 12/13/25 at 1:18 pm to stitchop
Posted on 12/13/25 at 1:18 pm to stitchop
quote:something he’s never managed to accomplish at any point in the 16 seasons since his first P4 HC job
The irony is that there is one (Lane) that would be the dynasty leader, instantly lifting AL back to automatic loss on the schedule, and presumed #1 every year.
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 1:18 pm to stitchop
Top 3 recruiting class, conference championship appearance and a playoff bid in the second year, but ok bruh.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 1:18 pm to BamaBravesPackers
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The one that’s 2-1 against the best coach in our league?
Posted on 12/13/25 at 1:26 pm to gumpinmizzou
Posted on 12/13/25 at 1:30 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
You really trying to downplay DeBoer being 2-1 vs Smart already? 
Posted on 12/13/25 at 1:37 pm to stitchop
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When teams are holding on to a coach that they are sour on, but they can’t think of who they could replace him with, we hear these desperate words.
Penn State and Michigan have actively tried to hire DeBoer this cycle, this is a really bad troll attempt.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 1:51 pm to stitchop
2-0
58-27-5
21-0
58-27-5
21-0
Posted on 12/13/25 at 2:14 pm to Marktastic86
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You really trying to downplay DeBoer being 2-1 vs Smart already?
No. It's just that as a Georgia fan, it's pretty frigging flattering to read how much Alabama fans cling to beating Georgia.
Mamma, we've made it!!!
Posted on 12/13/25 at 2:32 pm to stitchop
Somebody ban this fraud (again). He's not an LSU fan.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 2:35 pm to stitchop
Bama is in the playoffs.
Not much of a dropoff if we are being honest.
Not much of a dropoff if we are being honest.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 2:46 pm to stitchop
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The “one” isn’t a specific coach. There was a recent time when AL just named who they wanted and that man dropped whatever and whoever and ran to AL
Rich Rodriquez turned down Alabama before they hired Nick Saban.
According to the Rant, Deboer was Alabama’s 3rd or 4th option because the others said no.
You really need to work on y’alls narrative's.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 3:02 pm to stitchop
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There was a recent time when AL just named who they wanted and that man dropped whatever and whoever and ran to AL.
This has never been true.
Some coaches can't be hired away as long as their current employer is willing to match offers.
No college job was hiring Steve Spurrier away from Florida when he coached there. I'm sure Bama asked when they hired Mike Dubose. Wasn't achievable.
Same was true for Bobby Bowden when FSU was willing to match offers. Teams tried.
I'd say the same holds true for Kirby Smart at UGA. As long as UGA is willing to match any offer, it's unlikely Kirby would go anywhere.
And if you actually look at the Bama coaching searches, it's fair to look back and question if most of them were "first choices".
Was Deboer? Probably... but did they ask Smart just to be sure he was off the board?
Was Saban? No, he wasn't. Rich Rodriguez was who they initially hired. RRod backed out and stayed with WVU (though he later left his alma mater for Michigan).
Shula definitely wasn't their first choice. They were dealing with heavy sanctions.
Price? Nope. Mike Riley turned down the job. Same probation/sanction issues as Shula.
Franchione? Reportedly Frank Beamer was their first choice, but didn't want to leave his Alma Mater (VT).
Dubose? Many think Bama didn't want to hire him but there was pressure from fans and possibly Stallings.
Stallings? Nope, Bobby Bowden was choice 1. Bama's board of trustees voted to hire him 14-1 but his contract buyout scared off Bama's President.
Curry might have been the University's choice, but the fans hated the hire.
We really might have to go back to Perkins following Bear to have the first time Bama got their first choice for head coach unless they didn't bother to call Kirby when they hired Deboer.
I think your premise is flawed.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 3:06 pm to stitchop
Bama isn't mediocre under KD. Rather, KD has Bama playing at our floor. He hasn't elevated the program.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 3:14 pm to UtahCajun
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Bama is in the playoffs.
Not much of a dropoff if we are being honest.
First of all... I want to state that I think Deboer was a very good hire....
but this statement isn't realistic.
Bama missed the playoffs last year and made it as the #9 seed this year in a 12 team playoff.
The number of times under Saban where Bama wouldn't have finished the regular season in 10th place or higher (which today pretty much locks up a playoff spot)?
Three times. His first season, 2010 and 2019. An 82% rate of making a 12 team playoff is a lot better than a 50% rate. Deboer is good, but EVERYONE would be a significant dropoff from Saban and Deboer has only been good... not great.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 3:15 pm to Shaft Williams
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Bama isn't mediocre under KD. Rather, KD has Bama playing at our floor. He hasn't elevated the program.
You have a floor below Deboer. Do you honestly think Mike Shula would have won 2 of 3 against UGA the past 2 seasons?
Posted on 12/13/25 at 3:18 pm to DawginSC
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You have a floor below Deboer. Do you honestly think Mike Shula would have won 2 of 3 against UGA the past 2 seasons?
The Shula years aren't representative of us as a program. When we aren't on probation 9-10 wins and top recruiting classes are a given.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 3:19 pm to gumpinmizzou
Hey -3 You forgot one.
Got your arse royalty kicked by Georgia.
And that -3? Wow! Even hired cupcakes have given Georgia more problems.
But enjoy your new title - what was that again? Oh yeah! Regular season SEC champs. Very creative. Manufacturing titles out of thin air is fun. Nothing like copying AU when your “dynasty” program is in serious decline.
Got your arse royalty kicked by Georgia.
And that -3? Wow! Even hired cupcakes have given Georgia more problems.
But enjoy your new title - what was that again? Oh yeah! Regular season SEC champs. Very creative. Manufacturing titles out of thin air is fun. Nothing like copying AU when your “dynasty” program is in serious decline.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 3:25 pm to Shaft Williams
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The Shula years aren't representative of us as a program. When we aren't on probation 9-10 wins and top recruiting classes are a given.
No, they're not representative of Bama as a program. But a floor means what Bama is with the worst possible coach... not a mid-level guy.
Do you believe your performance the last two years with your pick from amongst the worst Bama coaches ever would be 9-4 in 2024 and 10-3 so far in 2025? Because I can think of at least 6 guys who coached SEC teams this year that would have coached bama to a worse record than that the last couple of years.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 3:26 pm to 3down10
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When we hired Saban, we were turned down by Spurrier(who went to South Carolina instead)
Spurrier had been at SCAR 2 years before Saban was hired.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 3:32 pm to stitchop
Why don't you do a little better than 5 out of 20 before you start running your suck?
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