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The DP that was passed up was the true “mistake”, and it’s still not all on the SS

Posted on 6/19/25 at 3:58 pm
Posted by Ag Zwin
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 3:58 pm
As a team, they should have talked through (even if just chatter) that a DP ball goes to 2B no matter what. Even if you don’t turn 2, you still have the tying run at 1st. The lead runner was immaterial.

All the other defensive issues were “heat of the moment” execution. This one was a lack of pre-play awareness, and that falls to coaching IMHO.
This post was edited on 6/19/25 at 4:02 pm
Posted by Clark14
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 4:02 pm to
What’s your excuse, your coach and players must really suck.

Go away, you’re embarrassing yourself.
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 4:09 pm to
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Just painful to watch. Game-ending DP served up on a silver platter.
Posted by BuzzSaw 12
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 4:17 pm to
I'm not sure I would blame coaching for the DP decision. That's typically a player driven decision in the heat of the moment. What you can blame coaching on is the decision to pitch to Jared Jones. That was inexcusable. I think Van Horn was in shock by what just happened in left field and froze in the moment. That can't happen.
Posted by DalenSA
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 4:19 pm to
Posted by SEC Doctor
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 4:19 pm to
quote:

As a team, they should have talked through (even if just chatter) that a DP ball goes to 2B no matter what. Even if you don’t turn 2, you still have the tying run at 1st. The lead runner was immaterial.


You have to think he was reminded of that in the huddle, would be a good question for a reporter to ask, but I doubt we will hear the answer.
Posted by SECCaptain
Member since Jun 2025
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 4:36 pm to
I think the play in the first LSU game where they failed to turn 2 might have influenced his decision.
Posted by Harry Morgan
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 4:54 pm to
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 4:59 pm to
quote:

a team, they should have talked through (even if just chatter) that a DP ball goes to 2B no matter what. Even if you don’t turn 2, you still have the tying run at 1st. The lead runner was immaterial.
Johnson would’ve had a mound visit to clarify.
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 5:02 pm to
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Johnson would’ve had a mound visit to clarify.

That play was the first pitch after a mound visit. Throwing to third there is almost inexplicable.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 5:02 pm to
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This one was a lack of pre-play awareness,


Youre taught in high school to visualize pre-play. We practiced it. There's no excuse for it.

Taking it further, he and his teammates should have verbalized the plan prior to the play. Its something we used to do often, remind everyone where to go with the ball.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 5:06 pm to
quote:


I'm not sure I would blame coaching for the DP decision


Players know youre supposed to be prepared where to go with the ball before the pitch.

Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 5:09 pm to
quote:

That play was the first pitch after a mound visit. Throwing to third there is almost inexplicable.
sorry. I didn’t see DVH go out. My mistake.
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
7792 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 5:13 pm to
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sorry. I didn’t see DVH go out. My mistake.

It might have been the pitching coach. Don’t fully recall.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 5:14 pm to
I had something typed out but can’t find a way to not sound like I’m bashing Aloy ,so Imma let it go
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
24718 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 6:45 pm to
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What’s your excuse, your coach and players must really suck.

Well, they won the series at your site when you were #2 in the country.

So, there’s that.
Posted by Red Drum
Coast
Member since Sep 2007
1883 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 7:39 pm to
Your evidence shows that he threw it to 3rd on the one play where his momentum was going away from 2nd base. He squared up for all the ones he threw to 2nd.
Posted by Boar
Member since May 2025
346 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 9:14 pm to
Aloy been the SS two years. He golden spikes player of the year. Van Horn trusted him to make the right call on the field. Not hard to understand or grasp
Posted by HogsWillRiseAgain
Central LA
Member since Dec 2013
921 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 11:05 pm to
Lost in all of the mistakes/errors is the play at first. As soon as 1B turned and saw 2nd base could and more than likely would make the play he should have gotten back to the bag. If I remember right, that would be two outs nobody on. But more than that it gave LSU hope and AR in turn played scared/tight, total momentum shift in my opinion. Which leads to AR completely shitting the bed like only AR can
Posted by geauxtigahhhs
Member since Jun 2025
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 11:14 pm to
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Lost in all of the mistakes/errors is the play at first. As soon as 1B turned and saw 2nd base could and more than likely would make the play he should have gotten back to the bag. If I remember right, that would be two outs nobody on. But more than that it gave LSU hope and AR in turn played scared/tight, total momentum shift in my opinion. Which leads to AR completely shitting the bed like only AR can

100%. As soon as we got a baserunner I knew we had a real shot. I mean one swing ties the game at that point. If they get that out it’s most likely game over
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