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re: The comparisons between Mac Jones and Burrow

Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:29 am to
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
32231 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:29 am to
What does that have to do with anything. Idk who yall is or what the argument of the day is,I'm talking about the post you made
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83771 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:31 am to
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What defense did yall play last year that was better then any of the top 4 lsu did?


None of our opponents got to pad their defensive stats against teams like Northwestern State, Georgia Southern, Florida International, Middle Tennessee, etc.

These were the Top 5 defenses in 2020:

1. Marshall
2. Army
3. Air Force
4. BYU
5. Northwestern

I wonder why? You think those were the best five defenses in college football?

ETA: Let's not overlook Florida Atlantic at #9 and the mighty Rice Owls checking in at #12.

You think Rice would have had the #12 ranked defense if their game against LSU hadn't been cancelled?
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 6:35 am
Posted by SmokeTide
Gulf Coast Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
5315 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:37 am to
quote:

None of our opponents got to pad their defensive stats against teams like Northwestern State, Georgia Southern, Florida International, Middle Tennessee, etc.

These were the Top 5 defenses in 2020:

1. Marshall
2. Army
3. Air Force
4. BYU
5. Northwestern

I wonder why? You think those were the best five defenses in college football?


LSU folks love to throw out off the cuff numbers but it's more perception than reality. Numbers and facts don't matter unless they show LSU in a positive manner for argument sakes.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
32231 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:38 am to
quote:

#Insecure

Wtf is this
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
32231 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:42 am to
Wtf does that have to do with the fact that Alabama's opponents weren't good at defense.

I'm just trying to say the line about playing northwestern state and Georgia southern is easily cancelled out by the great defenses we had to play.

It's a pretty well known fact that lsu beat the preseason top 5 teams by an avg of like 3 tds or more and that the defenses were much worse last season in the sec.

Can you not admit that?
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
13040 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:42 am to
Mac's team scored more the 30 points every game, Burrow's team didn't.

The team that held Burrow to 23 points, Mac put 45 on them.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
32231 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:45 am to
Why does that matter,why are we comparing that season? That's one game and we beat yall that year . That's not even the argument anyway.

Did we or did we not play better defenses in 2019 then yall did in 2020?
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
32231 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:46 am to
And yall lost the god damn game to tthat same team anyway
Christ,this is unreal.lol , I'm out dude you are arguing about a game yall lost in a season we beat yall .this is insane
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 6:48 am
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83771 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:49 am to
quote:

Wtf does that have to do with the fact that Alabama's opponents weren't good at defense.


Seriously?

Are you an idiot?

You say Alabama didn't play any of the top defenses in the country. I literally just posted who the Top 5 were and you can't discern why?

Let me help you. Each one of those teams had games against Power Five opponents cancelled so they were able to play, in some cases, only 6 games against conference teams.

Army didn't have to play Oklahoma.

BYU had games against Michigan State, Minnesota, Utah, Arizona State, Stanford and Missouri cancelled and replaced them with the likes of North Alabama, UTSA, Western Kentucky and Texas State.

quote:

I'm just trying to say the line about playing northwestern state and Georgia southern is easily cancelled out by the great defenses we had to play.


Cool. I used them as an example as to why SEC defenses as a whole weren't ranked higher in 2020. They didn't get the benefit of playing similar teams.

quote:

It's a pretty well known fact that lsu beat the preseason top 5 teams by an avg of like 3 tds or more and that the defenses were much worse last season in the sec.


Yet the one win y'all brag about the most was by five points.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
50870 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:12 am to
I don’t
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
13040 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:44 am to
LSU got lucky they didn't have to play Mac in 2019, got a banged up Tua instead.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
68377 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:53 am to
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LSU got lucky they didn't have to play Mac in 2019, got a banged up Tua instead.


Curious coaching decision if Tua was as injured as Bammers say.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
77438 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:57 am to
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Are we still on the make believe notion that Jones can’t elude a rush and throw on the run?


Are we still on the make believe notion that Mac Jones will be anywhere near as good as Burrow as a pro?
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:59 am to
quote:

Are we still on the make believe notion that Mac Jones will be anywhere near as good as Burrow as a pro?




Mac Jones has finished as many NFL seasons as burro already.
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
21932 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 9:09 am to
quote:

Are we still on the make believe notion that Mac Jones will be anywhere near as good as Burrow as a pro?


Burrow won two games last year.
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
9631 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 10:02 am to
quote:

I’m confused, who was the 1 legged Qb?


The one mentioned in this SEC short....

SEC Short LSU tiger doll speaks truth
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45918 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 10:15 am to
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These were the Top 5 defenses in 2020:

1. Marshall
2. Army
3. Air Force
4. BYU
5. Northwestern


It’s always funny when you guys indirectly admit the absurdity of the 2020 football season while in the same breath, try to avoid all the context that makes a side-by-side comparison to teams that played actual normal seasons impossible. It’s one of the funniest self-owns in this argument.
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 10:16 am
Posted by topcat88
Member since Nov 2015
4601 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 10:23 am to
Burrow was way better in the pocket as well and has more rushing TDs. And has 19 more touchdowns than Jones. Bama fans will say but but Georgia state.... 2 more games. Well give Jones two more games he would still have to throw 10 touchdowns in each game to pass Burrow. Not going to happen.
Posted by topcat88
Member since Nov 2015
4601 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 10:24 am to
Did Jones torch a team for 7 TDs through three quarters in the CFP?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 10:25 am to
I love Mac (and have since the Auburn game in 2019 when he showed what he was made of) and think he has a chance to be a solid NFL QB in the right system and at worst a 10-12 year lower tier starter or highly sought after backup, but he's not as good as Burrow was/is.

This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 10:26 am
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