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re: The comparisons between Mac Jones and Burrow
Posted on 4/12/21 at 8:06 pm to SidewalkTiger
Posted on 4/12/21 at 8:06 pm to SidewalkTiger
Burrow > Jones is a rare moment where nearly everyone nationally agrees with LSU fans
I treasure it
I treasure it
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 8:11 pm to Madking
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Sorry that’s not how ranked wins are counted.
It is when L1U always tries to discredit our schedule. I'm merely using your standard.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 8:15 pm to DhanTigers212
I'm an Auburn fan so I think both LSU and Alabama fans can get fuct so I have no dog in this fight. Burrow shows the rare ability to understand a defender's leverage and throw the receiver open even though they are covered. That what separates that best NFL QBs from the average ones. That's what made Manning so great. I saw Burrow make those throw in college and he progressed further in the NFL. I haven't seen Mac make those same type of throws.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 8:16 pm to EarlyCuyler3
No you’re not. You’re making up a standard I’ve never uttered and claiming you’re agreeing with it when you’re not even doing that. You can continue to deflect, move the goalpost try to impose double standards and invent alternate realities but none of them make a single point because even if they were real or fair you’d still come up short. That’s how totally wrong you are here. Even your stupid nickname makes zero sense and is a reflection of your delusion.
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:01 pm to PrimetimeDaBoss
Dude this was the best post ever with a complete discretion of 2020 teams.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:02 pm to DeoreDX
I don’t think Mac Jones has a type of throw he can’t make. That is not what differentiates him from Joe Burrow. The differentiator is Burrow’s build and ability to make plays when the pocket breaks down.
I’m a homer but you gotta be real about the fact that Mac Jones basically only ever got touched if someone had a mental mistake on blocking assignments. He can make any throw you need him to make but he almost always got all the time he needed to confidently read a defense and let his A+ WRs get open deep. 2020 Alabama’s run game was simply much stronger than 2019 LSU. ‘19 LSU ran well enough to punish team for focusing on the pass but I don’t think they had as many games w/ 5+ rushing TDs.
LSU’s offensive strategy in a nutshell was:
1) Put Joey in the gun
2) Release all 5 eligible receivers into routes (maybe the tailback or TE chips a rusher before releasing)
3) Joey’s body eats the unblocked man
4) Ball is out though and receiver runs long time.
So, yeah, Burrow was asked to do a ton more...the whole fact he was built like a Mack truck was a designed feature of the offense. Mac Jones would’ve gotten killed in that offense. In fact, our favorite thing to do was to run max protect (sometimes with a 6th OL who could’ve been a starter too) and play action off it for chunk plays.
Both may be good pros. Hell, Burrow already had one major injury...he’s probably gonna learn to take less hits in the NFL if he wants to survive. We’ll see on that front.
I’m a homer but you gotta be real about the fact that Mac Jones basically only ever got touched if someone had a mental mistake on blocking assignments. He can make any throw you need him to make but he almost always got all the time he needed to confidently read a defense and let his A+ WRs get open deep. 2020 Alabama’s run game was simply much stronger than 2019 LSU. ‘19 LSU ran well enough to punish team for focusing on the pass but I don’t think they had as many games w/ 5+ rushing TDs.
LSU’s offensive strategy in a nutshell was:
1) Put Joey in the gun
2) Release all 5 eligible receivers into routes (maybe the tailback or TE chips a rusher before releasing)
3) Joey’s body eats the unblocked man
4) Ball is out though and receiver runs long time.
So, yeah, Burrow was asked to do a ton more...the whole fact he was built like a Mack truck was a designed feature of the offense. Mac Jones would’ve gotten killed in that offense. In fact, our favorite thing to do was to run max protect (sometimes with a 6th OL who could’ve been a starter too) and play action off it for chunk plays.
Both may be good pros. Hell, Burrow already had one major injury...he’s probably gonna learn to take less hits in the NFL if he wants to survive. We’ll see on that front.
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:04 pm to narddogg81
Bull crap max plated practice squads and teams with covid restrictions such as no more than 6 PLAYERS IN THE FILM ROOM AT ONE TIME.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:04 pm to Diego Ricardo
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2020 Alabama’s run game was simply much stronger than 2019 LSU.
2020 Alabama yards per carry: 5.0
2019 LSU yards per carry: 4.9
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:08 pm to coachcrisp
I care less about INDIVIDUALS replies, just making my point clear by stating facts.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:12 pm to SidewalkTiger
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2020 Alabama yards per carry: 5.0
2019 LSU yards per carry: 4.9
2020 Alabama rushing yards per game: 183.46
2019 LSU rushing yards per game: 166.8
2020 Alabama rushing TDs per game: 2.85
2019 LSU rushing TDs per game: 2.13
So, it doesn’t show up startlingly different but Alabama has the edge overall. You can just watch the games and know their approaches are different. In fact, I’d say the biggest negative for LSU in the overall comparison of the two offenses is the OL. Joe Burrow being able to take hits really made y’alls season.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:16 pm to Diego Ricardo
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2020 Alabama rushing yards per game: 183.46
2019 LSU rushing yards per game: 166.8
2020 Alabama rushing TDs per game: 2.85
2019 LSU rushing TDs per game: 2.13
Because 2019 LSU ran the ball less.
"Per attempt" is the only statistic that matters in reference to if you run the ball well or not.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:20 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Because 2019 LSU ran the ball less.
"Per attempt" is the only statistic that matters in reference to if you run the ball well or not
The reason they are capable of getting comparable per attempt numbers is precisely because teams were out there running 3-1-7 defenses and other crazy small body personnel to cope with the passing game. All that ultimately matters is an offense can run effectively when they have to but Alabama got there because they could move big bodies while LSU got there because they forced the defense to go small then started moving bodies.
Not even a jab. I’m trying to pump up Joe Burrow’s impact here.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 4:01 am to DhanTigers212
Two guys who didn't accomplish anything until their last season. One of which had to run away from home to find somewhere to belong.
Seems like a generous comparison for one of them.
Seems like a generous comparison for one of them.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 4:59 am to Grievous Angel
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Why didn't he do that in 2018, then?
Why didn't Jones do that in 2019 ?
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:15 am to Sun God
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Burrow > Jones is a rare moment where nearly everyone nationally agrees with LSU fans
I treasure it
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Joe Burrow and the LSU Tigers shocked the college football landscape in 2019 when the young quarterback exploded with one of the most prominent breakouts in recent memory. Burrow skyrocketed up draft boards before being selected by the Cincinnati Bengals with the No. 1 pick of the 2020 NFL Draft, while his passing game coordinator, Joe Brady, landed the Carolina Panthers‘ offensive coordinator job after making his name known as one of the bright young minds in the game.
Those two — and that entire LSU team — went from unknown to unstoppable.
The 2019 LSU Tigers ended up shattering almost every offensive record set in the PFF College era (2014-present). Burrow had the most valuable season of any college player in that span, according to PFF WAA, and he also produced the best single-season PFF grade by a quarterback with a mark of 94.9.
Burrow, in conjunction with star receivers Ja’Marr Chase and Justin Jefferson, helped the Tigers record a successful pass play rate (the percentage of passing plays that generated positive expected points added) of 58.8%, the highest rate we have ever seen; they won the 2019 National Championship over Trevor Lawrence and the Clemson Tigers by 17 points after smashing Oklahoma by five touchdowns in the College Football Playoff Semifinals.
The 2019 LSU Tigers were arguably the best team in the entire 150-year history of college football, and it didn’t seem likely that we would see another group like that one anytime soon. Then, in 2020, a season that appeared to be fatally marked by the threat of COVID-19 and all the uncertainty that befalls it, that all changed.
Mac Jones and the Alabama Crimson Tide defied the odds and put together an even more impressive season than the one we saw from Joe Burrow and the LSU Tigers in 2019.
Alabama QB Mac Jones has orchestrated what is arguably the best passing attack in college football history
I prefer QBR and data over opinion, but that's okay.
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 6:17 am
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:20 am to DhanTigers212
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Everyone knows who the better QB is
Yep, the one that never got shutout and his team scored at least 31 points in every one of his starts.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:24 am to narddogg81
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mac played a tougher slate
See,no he didnt.
He didnt play a single defense that was better then the 3rd or 4th defense lsu did. Yall keep saying that shite because it was an sec schedule.thing is,their wasnt any good defenses last year in the sec. The best yall played was osu probably. Who wasnt better then the auburn,clemson,alabama,georgiaand probably even florida defense in 2019.
That's why people think it was a tougher year for lsu. They just didnt have any good defenses in the sec last year. Lsu in 2019 was destroying historic defenses in georgia ,clemson,and auburn.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:26 am to remaster916
If you want to talk about junior years then let's talk about mac's junior year as well ,dumbass. You know what he meant
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:27 am to TideSaint
What defense did yall play last year that was better then any of the top 4 lsu did in 2019?
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 6:28 am
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:28 am to Tigerpride18
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If you want to talk about junior years then let's talk about mac's junior year as well ,dumbass. You know what he meant
Can we talk about Chase also when y'all compare him to Smitty?
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