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re: The BIG 10 is destroying itself, geographically.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 4:13 pm to NickPapageorgio
Posted on 12/26/23 at 4:13 pm to NickPapageorgio
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We all know the B1G got a new TV deal. The SEC isn't a league of poors. We have the best programs and we'll be just fine.
For now, yes. Adding UT and OU is HUGE….but not as big as adding the west coast, the mid Atlantic, Florida and ND.
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Posted on 12/26/23 at 4:21 pm to AwgustaDawg
quote:If the B1G can pull this off then it will be the undisputed king of college football. The B1G already has the money and the exposure, soon it will be in a fertile recruiting ground.
For now, yes. Adding UT and OU is HUGE….but not as big as adding the west coast, the mid Atlantic, Florida and ND.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 4:48 pm to Clark14
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The more teams the more money has to be split between more teams which means less for all.
You ever think the more parts of the country the B1G captures the higher the revenues will be per team as more teams are added? It’s not a linear relationship, more teams don’t mean less of the pie to be split , it actually means the revenues from the tv deals will be increased exponentially at a higher rate so payouts to teams are greater even though more teams are in the conference.
This post was edited on 12/26/23 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 12/26/23 at 5:02 pm to AwgustaDawg
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If they add NC/UVA/FSU/Miami and GT they’ll have TV markets in the biggest cities in the nation not in Texas. The SEC will basically have the same TV markets we have now. They will be nationwide the SEC will be regional. That is not sustainable, even at Alabama - they can DOMINATE tv and coverage….and that will eventually mean recruiting. Even the playing field in recruiting because they dominate TV and give them more money and it won’t matter what the SEC has done in the last 30 years. The Big10 may have sucked arse on the field over that period compared to the SEC but they are still around and pose an existential threat to the SEC as a nation wide conference. The PAC 12 had some powerhouses in the past as did the Big 8 or whatever it was called. They no longer exist. The SEC is not immune to facing down an organization with similar resources that has already proven they are planning nationwide for the future and not regionally. It probably never happens but it won’t happen over night….but 10 years from now with what they have now plus 4-5 ACC teams and ND? Anyone doubting THAT may be a problem for the SEC is just unwilling to consider what the Big10 is doing.
Don’t sleep on SMU to snag the Dallas/Texas market, they will make hay in the ACC going forward and may be an attractive BIG target eventually.
I totally agree with you, eventually with NIL the extra money flow will allow the BIG to buy the teams and coaches they want. Both leagues will be fine, different approaches but eventually longterm I think the BIG will start winning a few more natty’s.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 5:05 pm to TideFaninFl
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not as many people will watch the games even on TV.
So why pre merge was the SEC package 3b vs 7b for B1G. You see that interest dropping off dramatically now that they added 4 more teams that will only aid in increasing viewership ? So the next time they do a tv deal there is going to be some catastrophic turn of events that causes the B1G to garner less viewership than SEC bc a few players families need to travel longer ? The argument isn’t what is the better conference, that is the SEC. It’s the B1G destroying itself claims. Clearly it’s the biggest revenue generating conference so unless you think that just somehow doesn’t become true in 10 years , not sure why its hard to accept they are the most powerful conference brand in terms of Revenue. So the odds of them destroying themselves are very very slim. These pos teams like Northwestern and Illinois still have cult like followings in the Midwest to watch all their games on local networks and in person.
This post was edited on 12/26/23 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 12/26/23 at 5:16 pm to GTnerd
SMU has a 30k capacity stadium expandable to only 45k if completely built up. They have no room for additional facilities. They have zero TV revenue for the next 9 years. The school itself has a snobby rich kid reputation outside of the park cities. I know four SMU alum. None have hung a flag, wore a shirt, gone to a game, or done anything else to show support for their Mustangs other than complain about Sonny moving. The boosters will have their hands full just keeping the program alive.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 5:24 pm to AwgustaDawg
They haven't added all that and even if they did they'd still lack the top 6 football programs.
Right after that, they split to four 6 team divisions I suppose to help with scheduling.
Eight 4 team?
They will end up right where they were. Watching the SEC win the national titles because we have the top 6 programs.
UGA, UF, LSU, Texas, Bama, Oklahoma are all above OSU....the best B1G team now and in the future.
The SEC second group of AU and Tenn are as good or better than as the 2nd best in the new B1G....Michigan.
I will not even compare the bottom halves as the SEC is so far ahead that the 9 or 10th best SEC program would be 4th or 5th in the B1G.
Right after that, they split to four 6 team divisions I suppose to help with scheduling.
Eight 4 team?
They will end up right where they were. Watching the SEC win the national titles because we have the top 6 programs.
UGA, UF, LSU, Texas, Bama, Oklahoma are all above OSU....the best B1G team now and in the future.
The SEC second group of AU and Tenn are as good or better than as the 2nd best in the new B1G....Michigan.
I will not even compare the bottom halves as the SEC is so far ahead that the 9 or 10th best SEC program would be 4th or 5th in the B1G.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 5:41 pm to NickPapageorgio
The way the SEC is set in a regional footprint means there will be fewer elite programs. The SEc before expansion was only 1 or 2 super teams while the rest had no drawing power and still don't.
The B1G being a nationwide organization will have elite programs in each region, allowing for bigger matchups each week and more TV revenue.
Also, no one in the national television audience cares about the SEC outside of Alabama and Georgia, while the B1G will have a major draw from each region, which will include the south when the ACC implodes.
The B1G being a nationwide organization will have elite programs in each region, allowing for bigger matchups each week and more TV revenue.
Also, no one in the national television audience cares about the SEC outside of Alabama and Georgia, while the B1G will have a major draw from each region, which will include the south when the ACC implodes.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 6:05 pm to BuckI
This B1G vs. SEC TV deal squabbling is going to look pretty silly in a decade or two.
Texas, Georgia, Ohio State, Alabama, USC, Michigan, etc. will all be in the same conference in football by 2040.
Texas, Georgia, Ohio State, Alabama, USC, Michigan, etc. will all be in the same conference in football by 2040.
This post was edited on 12/26/23 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 12/26/23 at 7:07 pm to PerrillouxToTexas
A B1G/SEC merger is possible but I doubt some teams make the cut.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 7:12 pm to BuckI
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The SEc before expansion was only 1 or 2 super teams while the rest had no drawing power and still don't.
In 2023 4 SEC teams and 3 B10 teams starting next year were in the top 10.
In other words, what the frick are you talking about?
This post was edited on 12/26/23 at 7:16 pm
Posted on 12/26/23 at 7:15 pm to jonnyanony
From another source, 9 of the top 20 are SEC, 6 are Big 10.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 7:30 pm to BuckI
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The B1G has plans for the Southeast. It is all a matter of time.
OK Adolph Bucki
Posted on 12/26/23 at 7:51 pm to jonnyanony
quote:Alabama and Georgia, wash, rinse, and repeat. Now and then a different team will arise. Georgia may already be on the way down. I also think you forgot the West Coast additions.
In 2023 4 SEC teams and 3 B10 teams starting next year were in the top 10.
In other words, what the frick are you talking about?
Posted on 12/26/23 at 7:52 pm to Fearless and True
quote:The B1G will plant its flag in the south.
OK Adolph Bucki
Posted on 12/26/23 at 7:52 pm to NickPapageorgio
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UGA, UF, LSU, Texas, Bama, Oklahoma are all above OSU....the best B1G team now and in the future.
Jesus Christ. Go back to the grove or whatever you call that stupid shite at your school.
Posted on 12/26/23 at 9:18 pm to BuckI
I didn't know the WC teams played in the B1G in 2023.
Posted on 12/27/23 at 10:31 am to VABuckeye
The truth hurts your fragile B1G ego.
Keep begging for better teams to join your second tier football conference.
Penn State, Nebraska, USC.....
Yall been trying to catch up by adding big football programs for decades now.
You've fallen further behind. Oklahoma and Texas just joined the SEC.
Either are the best football programs the last 30 years in the big other than OSU.
And OSU gets exposed annually in big non conference bowl games after feasting on the pathetic big all year padding the win column.
Keep begging for better teams to join your second tier football conference.
Penn State, Nebraska, USC.....
Yall been trying to catch up by adding big football programs for decades now.
You've fallen further behind. Oklahoma and Texas just joined the SEC.
Either are the best football programs the last 30 years in the big other than OSU.
And OSU gets exposed annually in big non conference bowl games after feasting on the pathetic big all year padding the win column.
This post was edited on 12/27/23 at 10:33 am
Posted on 12/27/23 at 11:10 am to NickPapageorgio
quote:Who has been exposed more than Texas and Oklahoma? And what would a Mississippi fan know about the BCS/CFP?
You've fallen further behind. Oklahoma and Texas just joined the SEC.
Either are the best football programs the last 30 years in the big other than OSU.
And OSU gets exposed annually in big non conference bowl games after feasting on the pathetic big all year padding the win column.
Posted on 12/27/23 at 11:45 am to EGO3x
quote:Why should the SEC change its name?
I just wish these conferences would change their name for accuracy's sake. It won't happen because BIG 10 and SEC are huge recognizable brands but man it bugs my OCD.
Even with new additions, all of the teams are basically in the SE quadrant if the continental US.
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