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re: The Athletic on A&M's recruiting spending spree
Posted on 4/27/22 at 11:29 am to Texaggie96
Posted on 4/27/22 at 11:29 am to Texaggie96
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shite, are we on double secret probation?
I imagine Jimbo's show cause will be more than 6 months this time if that is what you are referring too.
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Posted on 4/27/22 at 11:29 am to 3down10
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I commented on the article in the OP.
You're butt hurt because you know I'm right.
No, your take is fricking stupid. NIL deals are legal. Many schools (not A&M, ironically) are PUBLICLY ANNOUNCING minimum guaranteed deals, which is the most obvious use of NIL deals as a recruiting incentive possible. And they are STILL doing this, and they are doing this because they know that the "NIL deals can't be used as an incentive for recruiting" is hopelessly vague and unenforceable. Of-fricking-course every Power 5 program is using NIL money as a recruiting incentive! What planet do you live on?!
(And the only reason anyone thinks A&M is being investigated is because a fake twitter account said so. That claim is even more poorly substantiated that the fricking stupid $30,000,000 rumor that made its rounds.)
This post was edited on 4/27/22 at 11:32 am
Posted on 4/27/22 at 11:36 am to Hugh McElroy
Other info from the article:
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On Saturday, as the Texas A&M donors gathered to learn about the new facilities, former Oklahoma coach Barry Switzer announced a Norman-based NIL collective called 1Oklahoma that will operate as a non-profit and pay Oklahoma athletes for doing work for other non-profits. According to a release announcing the collective, Oklahoma athletes can make between $40,000 and $50,000 a year partnering with 1Oklahoma.
Investors in The Fund at Texas A&M don’t understand why investors in other collectives feel the need to advertise those collectives. None in the Texas A&M-adjacent group would speak on the record, though several shared working details of the operation with The Athletic. As far as publicity, they feel word-of-mouth between recruits and players will be plenty to ensure the people they’ll work with know what is available.
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With various state NIL laws going into effect on July 1, 2021, the investors behind The Fund began designing the structure of the organization in May 2021. Originally, the plan was to operate almost strictly as an apparel/memorabilia company, making T-shirts and other player-branded items that could be sold to an adoring fan base. That didn’t last long. Eventually, the backers of The Fund came to the same conclusion that other for-profit collectives have. The most efficient way to handle players — and the easiest way to guarantee an amount of money — is to buy the players’ NIL rights entirely and then act as a marketing agency, making deals on behalf of the players and then using the proceeds from those deals to recoup the marketing guarantees made in the players’ contracts.
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The Oklahoma fund described above operates as a 501(c)(3) organization. So does a collective attached to Ohio State. Meanwhile, some who have organized their collectives as for-profit LLCs have expressed reservations about the non-profit model. They aren’t entirely sure the IRS ultimately will view such organizations as charitable entities. The LLC operators feel their investors can write off donations as business expenses because players can be hired to promote the investors’ businesses. Another possibility is that if a collective operates at a loss, it could provide a Schedule K-1 form to investors who then could claim their portion of the loss on their taxes.
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The hope in College Station is that The Fund will generate enough money in promotional deals to cover any guarantees. But those investors, who didn’t get rich by being dumb, aren’t naive. “It’s going to need to be refilled every year,” said one person who has invested in The Fund and given to the recent capital campaign. “I’m not sure how many of these people understand that yet.”
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Organizers of The Fund also worry about how the players will handle the money. That’s why several of the contracts are set up so that a substantial portion of the guarantee will be paid out in April 2023. Why? Because that’s when taxes are due, and it would ensure the player would have enough cash on hand to pay the IRS. There was some trepidation about providing a payment so close to the May 1 deadline to enter the NCAA transfer portal and play somewhere else the following season, but ultimately the collective decided helping to keep its favorite team’s players on Uncle Sam’s good side superseded any concerns about those players transferring.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 11:38 am to Hugh McElroy
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Everyone does it, we are fine.
Also what Ole Miss and LSU said. This will be the 3rd time past 12 years I said a program was going to get hit, the other 2 were Ole Miss and LSU.
I'll agree there are ways around it. A&M was too dumb to figure them out. Your boosters thought it was a green light to openly pay recruits, and now you're desperately trying to back track it.
Considering A&M is less than 2 years off a NCAA penalty for recruiting that was very close to LOIC and your coach being hit with a 6 month show cause, they aren't going to take it easy on you either.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 12:30 pm to 3down10
This is a thread and topic where I fully agree with 3down10.
That's all the evidence needed to prove that Aggy is FRICKed.
That's all the evidence needed to prove that Aggy is FRICKed.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 12:37 pm to 3down10
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was very close to LOIC and your coach being hit with a 6 month show cause
and you went off the rails right there. I enjoy your bitterness.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 12:40 pm to Hugh McElroy
Aggy thinks they're rich[/t.u
Posted on 4/27/22 at 1:05 pm to Mr Sausage
The REC sure is melty lately.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 1:26 pm to Hugh McElroy
Posted on 4/27/22 at 1:27 pm to texag7
Hopefully some of that money can go toward your legal fees, Daniel.
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Posted by texag7 on 1/20/22 at 6:27 pm to Farmer1906
What are my court chances in bringing a defamation case against a certain sip poster on the Rant?
I’ve been reading cases of anonymous people getting caught up with way less material than he has thrown at me over the years
Pages and pages and pages of how I’m Daniel the racist etc. Seems pretty cut and dry. Willing to bet a decent lawyer could get his IP/identity from Chicken to move forward
Thoughts?
Posted on 4/27/22 at 2:12 pm to 3down10
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Also what Ole Miss and LSU said. This will be the 3rd time past 12 years I said a program was going to get hit, the other 2 were Ole Miss and LSU. I'll agree there are ways around it. A&M was too dumb to figure them out. Your boosters thought it was a green light to openly pay recruits, and now you're desperately trying to back track it. Considering A&M is less than 2 years off a NCAA penalty for recruiting that was very close to LOIC and your coach being hit with a 6 month show cause, they aren't going to take it easy on you either.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 2:14 pm to Texaggie96
What tears?
The only tears I see is from Aggy crying over spending more $ than most developed nations do each year to only go 8-4 every season.
The only tears I see is from Aggy crying over spending more $ than most developed nations do each year to only go 8-4 every season.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 3:46 pm to Texaggie96
The wizard hath spoketh!
Posted on 4/27/22 at 4:37 pm to Mr Sausage
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and you went off the rails right there. I enjoy your bitterness.
Are you saying Jimbo wasn't hit with a 6 month show cause for not promoting an atmosphere of compliance?
Call me bitter, but that's the kind of stuff that matters when they look at cases like this.
This post was edited on 4/27/22 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 4/27/22 at 5:18 pm to 3down10
It has nothing to do with recruiting, which is what you said. We practiced too long, and had one “bumped into a recruit while at a school during a dead period” complaint thrown in. A&M got a tiny hand slap for a tiny violation - nowhere close to a LOIC charge. Not ever remotely close.
In short, you’re making shite up. That’s been established. Nevermind that you’re claiming A&M is under investigation with no proof. Nevermind that your desperate for A&M to be violating recruiting rules while utterly ignoring the use of NIL by Alabama, Ohio St, UF, OU, and many others.
It’s clear to everyone that you’re desperate to marginalize A&M’s success in recruiting, so you’re willing to say anything, even stuff that easily shown to be false.
In short, you’re making shite up. That’s been established. Nevermind that you’re claiming A&M is under investigation with no proof. Nevermind that your desperate for A&M to be violating recruiting rules while utterly ignoring the use of NIL by Alabama, Ohio St, UF, OU, and many others.
It’s clear to everyone that you’re desperate to marginalize A&M’s success in recruiting, so you’re willing to say anything, even stuff that easily shown to be false.
This post was edited on 4/27/22 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 4/27/22 at 5:38 pm to Hugh McElroy
Yeppers
I thought false statements were the property of sips and tigers. Even Bama starting to get nervous. That means we are headed in the right direction!
I thought false statements were the property of sips and tigers. Even Bama starting to get nervous. That means we are headed in the right direction!
Posted on 4/27/22 at 5:39 pm to Hugh McElroy
All Saban did is state facts. He didn't say..."therefore Arch, if you come here, you'll be a millionaire."
That would be using NIL to recruit.
That would be using NIL to recruit.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 5:42 pm to 3down10
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In accordance with Texas law,
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According to the NCAA
Big brain time, boys!
Posted on 4/27/22 at 5:47 pm to Hugh McElroy
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It has nothing to do with recruiting, which is what you said. We practiced too long, and had one “bumped into a recruit while at a school during a dead period” complaint thrown in. A&M got a tiny hand slap for a tiny violation - nowhere close to a LOIC charge. Not ever remotely close.
In short, you’re making shite up. That’s been established. Nevermind that you’re claiming A&M is under investigation with no proof. Nevermind that your desperate for A&M to be violating recruiting rules while utterly ignoring the use of NIL by Alabama, Ohio St, UF, OU, and many others.
It’s clear to everyone that you’re desperate to marginalize A&M’s success in recruiting, so you’re willing to say anything, even stuff that easily shown to be false.
I don't need to make shite up. You're just a dumbass who apparently thinks Texas A&M is the only team to ever have the #1 class. You weren't the only team that recruited last year. You aren't the first team to get the #1 recruiting class.
But let me find my shock face that someone from Texas thinks anything they don't like is just a sign of jealously.
Maybe you should look up what LOIC means. Or hell, just go look at the reasons why LSU got it.
NCAA hands out penalties to Jimbo Fisher, Texas A&M football after Aggies violated recruiting rules
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The NCAA charged Fisher for failing to “promote an atmosphere of compliance because of his personal involvement in the recruiting violation.”
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Fisher was also found to have failed to monitor his staff when he did not ensure the program was staying within the allowable number of countable athletically related activity hours.
Both of these things are the kinds of things that lead to LOIC. What kept it from being that was the lack of a level 1 violation, otherwise it would have been LOIC.
That's just how shite works.
And of course, your HC got hit with a show cause...because that's how close you were. They don't give those out for the hell of it.
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The NCAA outlined the following penalties for Texas A&M:
One year of probation.
A fine of $5,000.
A reduction in football official visits by 17 days during the 2019-20 academic year.
An off-campus recruiting ban for the entire football coaching staff for November 2019, which reduced the permissible evaluation days for the 2019-20 academic year by 19.
A seven-day off-campus recruiting ban for the football coaching staff for the 2020 spring off-campus recruiting period and a 10-day off-campus recruiting ban for the football coaching staff for the 2020 fall off-campus recruiting period.
The university ended its recruitment of the prospect.
A ban on recruiting any prospects from the prospect’s high school for the 2019-20, 2020-21 and 2021-22 academic years.
A six-month show-cause order for the head coach. The terms of the show-cause order include a previously served nine-day ban on phone calls, emails or texts with prospects in January 2020; a reduction in off-campus recruiting contact days by three for the December 2019 through January 2020 contact period; a ban on all off-campus recruiting activities for the fall 2020 contact period; additional one-on-one rules education; and a public statement from the head coach addressing the violations.
A six-month show-cause order for the assistant coach. The terms of the show-cause order include a previously served nine-day ban on phone calls, emails or texts with prospects in January 2020; a reduction in off-campus recruiting contact days by three for the December 2019 through January 2020 contact period; a ban on all off-campus recruiting activities for the fall 2020 contact period; and additional one-on-one rules education.
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Posted on 4/27/22 at 5:57 pm to Hugh McElroy
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