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Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:46 pm to Lg
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:46 pm to Lg
quote:Well Sherlock, if that is the case, then why in the frick would Miles send a text to Miller asking him to bring his gun, if Miller had no idea his gun was in his car?
So if Miles got in the car with the gun in his waist band and slid the gun under the clothes before he exited the car at the club, is it not reasonable to assume that Miller never saw or touched the gun like his lawyer claimed?
Miles requested the gun, Miller showed up with it.
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Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:46 pm to ThePTExperience1969
quote:instead of “He did not.” Try “There doesn’t appear to be evidence to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt at this time.”
IDK what I should have said otherwise.
Of course, the evidence of intent we know about is circumstantial. In a trial with just Brandon Miller at the table with a quality criminal defense attorney, a conviction would be extraordinarily difficult.
In a trial with his co-defendants sitting next to him, including the trigger man, the likelihood of a jury accepting the circumstantial evidence as sufficient increases.
Still, the circumstantial evidence is more than sufficient for PC. Typically, the cops will arrest and DA will charge in that situation even if just to procure cooperation against co-defendants.
This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:46 pm to Foots51
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If he "broke no laws" and did not violate any team rules (such as out past curfew if they have a curfew), why would his coach suspend him?
Think it through before you say crazy shite. You’re saying it would be rational to suspend a player for missing practice. And not rational to suspend a player from making bad decisions that ended up with a person being murdered.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:48 pm to the808bass
shite like what he saids is why Charlie Strong's first rule was "No Guns".
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:50 pm to greygoose
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Miles requested the gun, Miller showed up with it.
Miles got in the car. Gave the gun to the shooter in Miller’s car. And the shooter almost immediately went over to the jeep and shot at the driver.
The time frame suggests they weren’t waiting on a ride. They were waiting on a gun.
If all they needed was a ride, they could’ve immediately left the area and everyone goes about their business.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:50 pm to greygoose
Miller knew about the gun (murder weapon) and he delivered it.
This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:53 pm to SneezyBeltranIsHere
Seriously, I would prefer adding FSU and Clemson over Texas and OU. Not sure about the tv deal then though.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:53 pm to Slackaveli
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not even a little bit. Know how I KNOW that?
BC DUDE NEVER MENTIONS WHERE THE GUN IS WHEN HE REQUESTED IT!!!
So obviously that is bc BM already knew where. NOTHING in that text says where to look for the gun.
BM without a shadow of a doubt KNEW the gun was in the car. 100% chance. His lawyer didnt even try top claim that shite bc he would get caught lying. Oats never claimed it either. Nobody has except Gumps online.
Imagine a friend of yours stashed a gun in your car. You have no idea it's there. Hours later, you get a text from the friend requesting you to bring him his gun. You don't know there is a gun in your car, and the friend has not told you there is a gun in your car. Just bring it. LOL! There are some serious mental midgets here, if they really expect that logic to fly.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:54 pm to WDE24
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instead of “He did not.” Try “There doesn’t appear to be evidence to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt at this time.”
Of course, the evidence of intent we know about is circumstantial. In a trial with just Brandon Miller at the table with a quality criminal defense attorney, a conviction would be extraordinarily difficult.
In a trial with his co-defendants sitting next to him, including the trigger man, the likelihood of a jury accepting the circumstantial evidence as sufficient increases.
That is very reasonable take and one I would agree with
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Still, the circumstantial evidence is more than sufficient for PC. Typically, the cops will arrest and DA will charge in that situation even if just to procure cooperation.
Even probable cause being a much lower standard than BRD, I don't know. My interpretation of the situation is BM was Miles's DD that night like upperclassmen make underclassmen do typically. I'm going to guess and speculate here, he probably knew about the gun and it's location in the car because, unless Darius Miles is careless about where he keeps his gun and he kept it there for days and both principals forgot about it, I'd venture to say he knew since it was his car. You may have something for PC there because there's a question of whether he saw the text or not and there's a question of what those texts mean in context. Moreover, he was driving to pick up DM anyway and presumably didn't know about the altercation or context while he was away per his lawyer. Debatable of whether it's enough or not for PC to charge him but probably the difference in such an analysis is he drove his car with DM's weapon to the scene where a murder occurred. So I understand how you can reach that conclusion.
Then the question is whether it's something the DA would want to take on like you said if it's just Brandon Miller with a quality criminal defense attorney and his resources, conviction would be very hard if not impossible.
This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:55 pm to greygoose
yeah it isnt even possible lol.
A guy who failed TWO grades in public school, too. They want us to believe that he can read minds though.
They will ignore my post on that one.
A guy who failed TWO grades in public school, too. They want us to believe that he can read minds though.
They will ignore my post on that one.
This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:57 pm to ThePTExperience1969
quote:Questionable. There is evidence that DM’s girlfriend was there (potentially with her car) and Bradley was there with a car as well. I’m not buying the attorney’s press release as a full and fully contextual account of the events.
Moreover, he was driving to pick up DM anyway
Posted on 2/24/23 at 3:57 pm to greygoose
I’m just glad the whole nation is getting to see how dirty the Univ of Alabama is.
We all knew it in the SEC, but now everyone sees how corrupt they are.
We all knew it in the SEC, but now everyone sees how corrupt they are.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 4:00 pm to WDE24
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There is evidence that DM’s girlfriend was there (potentially with her car) and Bradley was there with a car as well.
Would Miller know who was there if he didn't see them when he dropped them off? According to testimony, he said he would be back in about an hour.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 4:00 pm to WDE24
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Questionable. There is evidence that DM’s girlfriend was there (potentially with her car) and Bradley was there with a car as well.
I'm curious how do these evidence pieces make BM's intent heading to that location questionable? Or better said, the context of him driving to that location.
This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 2/24/23 at 4:01 pm to Rhino5
quote:Yep. And that's why they are STUPID for not addressing this better.
I’m just glad the whole nation is getting to see how dirty the Univ of Alabama is.
We all knew it in the SEC, but now everyone sees how corrupt they are.
It's multi-million dollar bad press.
This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 2/24/23 at 4:03 pm to Rhino5
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how dirty the Univ of Alabama is.
Let's not talk about "dirty" unless you are going to include Hugh "call girl" Freeze in the conversation as well.
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We all knew it in the SEC, but now everyone sees how corrupt they are.
Win at all costs, right?
Posted on 2/24/23 at 4:03 pm to ThePTExperience1969
quote:I think it is questionable BM was already headed there simply to just give DM a ride if there were two other rides already there hanging out with him. If BM was his only ride, I wonder whether BM drove DM and the shooter away from the scene. Or, who did? and should that person be charged?
I'm curious how do these evidence pieces make BM's intent heading to that location questionable?
This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 2/24/23 at 4:05 pm to Lg
quote:With the way most people communicate, especially at that age, probably. But I don’t know.
Would Miller know who was there if he didn't see them when he dropped them off?
Posted on 2/24/23 at 4:05 pm to the808bass
I'm speaking to the legality of Miller's actions. He is no more responsible for what a legal gun owner does with his own weapon than the store that sold the weapon to that young man.
If your friend left his pitching wedge in the back of your car, and texted you to bring him his property and upon receiving said property, he gives it to someone else who kills someone with it, should you be held responsible or arrested as an accessory?
If your friend left his pitching wedge in the back of your car, and texted you to bring him his property and upon receiving said property, he gives it to someone else who kills someone with it, should you be held responsible or arrested as an accessory?
Posted on 2/24/23 at 4:07 pm to WDE24
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I think it is questionable BM was already headed there simply to just give DM a ride if there were two other rides already there hanging out with him. If BM was his only ride, I wonder whether BM drive DM and the shooter away from the scene. Or, who did? and should that person be charged?
Ah, I see. My understanding was he was DM’s assigned ride or DD that night and was coming back in an hour after he left and just rolled up on those other principals or at least that’s the presumption.
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