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Posted on 2/24/23 at 4:09 pm to SneezyBeltranIsHere
quote:Imagine you’re a white person.
Will an Alabama loyalist please explain to me how this is benign?
Imagine you’re out to dinner after dropping your friend off.
Imagine you’re back on your way to pick him up.
Imagine as you pull up he texts you “dude I need my firearm, there’s a man here acting wild and threatening.”
You peeling out of there? Maybe. Maybe not.
Now imagine he runs up and yanks the firearm out of your back seat, hands it to some dude you don’t or barely know, and that guy starts firing.
Do you want people to want you to go to prison for that?
Posted on 2/24/23 at 4:09 pm to WDE24
quote:Oh shite.
I wonder whether BM drove DM and the shooter away from the scene.
I think you just nailed it!
Brandon was likely the GETAWAY DRIVER TOO!
Posted on 2/24/23 at 4:10 pm to Rhino5
Again...everyone is just taking it for granted that Miles text represents a request or a demand of Miller. Unfortunately for any case against Miller, that is not the only interpretation of that text message.
It says "I need my joint"
You have to know and follow the context of everything (and some of that context is somewhat only known by Miles and not by Miller because Miller isn't with Miles). I believe we all think that Miles is telling Miller this because they both know the gun is in the car, and the implication is that Miller should bring his car to Miles so he can get it. But is there actual evidence that Miller knew the gun was in the car that the state can prove it? The best evidence the state could present would be to put Miller or Miles on the stand and ask them some questions like "Does Miles carry his gun all the time?", but they aren't going to testify at all for the state if they are on trial and especially if it may incriminate them.
What would happen at a trial is that some police officer would get on the stand and claim that "I need my joint" means "bring me my gun" and then that officer is going to try to be made to look like a fool by a competent attorney on cross-examination. He's going to be asked if like "I need a drink!" or something in a conversation means that you are telling the other person to "bring you a drink right now," and all sorts of other muddy and ridiculous things. Then that doesn't even get to the ridiculous slang used and everything else that they'll have to wade through what it all means.
It says "I need my joint"
You have to know and follow the context of everything (and some of that context is somewhat only known by Miles and not by Miller because Miller isn't with Miles). I believe we all think that Miles is telling Miller this because they both know the gun is in the car, and the implication is that Miller should bring his car to Miles so he can get it. But is there actual evidence that Miller knew the gun was in the car that the state can prove it? The best evidence the state could present would be to put Miller or Miles on the stand and ask them some questions like "Does Miles carry his gun all the time?", but they aren't going to testify at all for the state if they are on trial and especially if it may incriminate them.
What would happen at a trial is that some police officer would get on the stand and claim that "I need my joint" means "bring me my gun" and then that officer is going to try to be made to look like a fool by a competent attorney on cross-examination. He's going to be asked if like "I need a drink!" or something in a conversation means that you are telling the other person to "bring you a drink right now," and all sorts of other muddy and ridiculous things. Then that doesn't even get to the ridiculous slang used and everything else that they'll have to wade through what it all means.
This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 2/24/23 at 4:10 pm to ThePTExperience1969
quote:THAT is a GODDAMNED LIE, Baw.
My understanding was he was DM’s assigned ride or DD that night and was coming back in an hour after he left and just rolled up on those other principals or at least that’s the presumption.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 4:10 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:
Imagine you’re a white person.
Imagine you’re out to dinner after dropping your friend off.
Imagine you’re back on your way to pick him up.
Imagine as you pull up he texts you “dude I need my firearm, there’s a man here acting wild and threatening.”
You peeling out of there? Maybe. Maybe not.
Now imagine he runs up and yanks the firearm out of your back seat, hands it to some dude you don’t or barely know, and that guy starts firing.
Do you want people to want you to go to prison for that?
That is a fair and good point
Posted on 2/24/23 at 4:10 pm to WDE24
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With the way most people communicate, especially at that age, probably.
Once again, you are speculating. Maybe BM went to have a late night snack with a coed and didn't want to be hassled. It doesn't say who the friend was he dropped off after dinner. All we know, according to the lawyers statement is that Miller was heading back to pick Miles up.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 4:11 pm to Slackaveli
Miller brought the gun
then provided the getaway and THATS why there are BULLET HOLES in his ride.
YALL ARE SO frickED if this is true and you played him. As is Tuscaloosa DA's office.
then provided the getaway and THATS why there are BULLET HOLES in his ride.
YALL ARE SO frickED if this is true and you played him. As is Tuscaloosa DA's office.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 4:11 pm to Slackaveli
quote:
THAT is a GODDAMNED LIE, Baw.
Prove it, BAW!!
Posted on 2/24/23 at 4:13 pm to WDE24
quote:
If BM was his only ride, I wonder whether BM drove DM and the shooter away from the scene. Or, who did? and should that person be charged?
I'd have to brush up on what's been reported and verified through prelim testimony but that's a good point as well.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 4:15 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:Now imagine everything is the same, but you are in downtown Montgomery and the offenders aren’t related to Alabama or Alabama basketball and you are the boyfriend in the Jeep and your significant other gets shot in the head and killed. You good with the 20 year old kid saying he was just the DD and didn’t know he was delivering the murder weapon to his boys? You think Montgomery police and DA are buying that?
ReauxlTide222
Posted on 2/24/23 at 4:16 pm to Slackaveli
quote:
YALL ARE SO frickED if this is true
You are a freaking bigger idiot than I thought. There are like 750 cameras on the Strip and you don't think this would be known by now. That would be aiding and abetting would it not?
Posted on 2/24/23 at 4:17 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:
Do you want people to want you to go to prison for that?

Posted on 2/24/23 at 4:19 pm to ThePTExperience1969
quote:I looked and didn’t see anything reported on. I easily could have missed it though.
I'd have to brush up on what's been reported and verified through prelim testimony but that's a good point as well.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 4:24 pm to WDE24
quote:My mind is probably going in 50 different directions and I’m PISSED. Beyond pissed.
Now imagine everything is the same, but you are in downtown Montgomery and the offenders aren’t related to Alabama or Alabama basketball and you are the boyfriend in the Jeep and your significant other gets shot in the head and killed. You good with the 20 year old kid saying he was just the DD and didn’t know he was delivering the murder weapon to his boys? You think Montgomery police and DA are buying that?
I want everyone involved to burn in hell most likely.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 4:26 pm to Lg
quote:He’s certainly an idiot.
You are a freaking bigger idiot than I thought.
But don’t judge him based on his takes on the case. Everything he’s posted about it is a full send troll.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 4:28 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:And how do you think the police and DA would handle it? You think the driver that brought the gun never gets arrested or charged?
My mind is probably going in 50 different directions and I’m PISSED. Beyond pissed. I want everyone involved to burn in hell most likely.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 4:39 pm to WDE24
I’d say solid chance they don’t get charged if they’re innocent like B Miller
I apologize for that immature response
I’m confident that there isn’t a cover up and I’m confident that the DA has enough information to absolve Brandon. The type of scenarios that folks here are throwing around would result in a damn charge. If it comes out during the trial that Miller was all in on this murder plot, I’ll root for the NCAA to take away Alabama’s entire season and for everyone involved to be fired.
I apologize for that immature response

I’m confident that there isn’t a cover up and I’m confident that the DA has enough information to absolve Brandon. The type of scenarios that folks here are throwing around would result in a damn charge. If it comes out during the trial that Miller was all in on this murder plot, I’ll root for the NCAA to take away Alabama’s entire season and for everyone involved to be fired.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 4:42 pm to ReauxlTide222
Just another bad look in a string of bad looks for Bama’s athletic program.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 4:43 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:me too; Likely just a bit of preferential treatment
I’m confident that there isn’t a cover up
quote:I doubt it, but enough to state he doesn’t think he could secure a conviction, so he didn’t file charges, and/or Miller got a deal as a cooperating witness
I’m confident that the DA has enough information to absolve Brandon.
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