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re: Texas Longhorns' rivalry vs. A&M is based on "respect"... vs. OU is based on "anger"

Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:27 am to
Posted by Shea Vinnerbush
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:27 am to
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You love to tell everyone you’re not the banned idiot xwing
Actually I never bring that guy up. Aggie posters like you do after I make yall cry. I guess me and that xwing character have something in common
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But your posting style and content has become identical
Making you cry? That much we can agree on
Posted by Shea Vinnerbush
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2023
2162 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:30 am to
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So that's why Texas Exes in the State Legislature blocked every attempt by A&M to acquire a law school for over 20 years...mostly good-natured ribbing.
”IT’S A CONSPIRACY I TELL YA! THOSE BIG MEANIE BULLY TEE YEW SIPS WILL DO ANYTHING TO KEEP US DOWN! THEYRE JUST A BUNCH OF BULLIES!!!”


I seriously don’t know how some of you aggies make it through life each morning with this much of a victim mentality. It really is no wonder your school hasn’t done shite in over 80 years

Poor aggies
Posted by Shea Vinnerbush
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2023
2162 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:32 am to
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Longhorns are bunch of stuck up assholes. And i went to school there.

Nobody will like them and Aggies damn sure don't respect them
”Dont say we didn’t warn yall! They’re just a bunch of big JERKS! Just because they went to the better school, in a better setting, with better teams to root for and less creepy fans to be around, they think they’re better than us!

And before you say anything, NO: it’s NOT because they’ve kicked our arse in everything. They just act that way because they’re a bunch of big MEANIES!!!”



Some of you aggies clearly suffered too many wedgies on the playground as a kid and it shows. It’s like y’all are oblivious to the fact that God put you on this earth simply for us to point and laugh at your futility

Poor aggies
Posted by Shea Vinnerbush
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2023
2162 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:34 am to
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The worst I’ve noticed from living in Texas since the 1990s are the Texas fans who never attended school at Texas. Most annoying figs ever.
Says the guy who literally never posts about his own school and spends 100% of the time bitching about Texas because his daughter wasn’t smart enough to attend UT
Posted by GamerAg
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:06 am to
Definitely Xwing
Posted by truth22
Member since May 2021
1813 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:21 am to
lobotomy is correct- no respect. culturally different.

texas may CLAIM OU is their main football rival, and that has most to do with the neutral site and the pageantry of RRS, but i guarantee you they hate losing to a&m more than to ou.

to most at A&M, doesnt matter either way, we love beating them.

you'll hear anout their foitball dominance, but that is SOLEY due to a period from 1940-1973 when a&m was a small mikitary college and texas was a football factory woth no scholly limits and all-white players on bith sides.

since scholly limits and the black athlete, A&M is 18-17 vs t-sips in the last 35.


This post was edited on 4/5/24 at 8:34 am
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
16585 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:34 am to
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Bama should watch out or the sips will destroy their athletic department like they did Nebraskas. It was the strict limits on partial qualifiers (championed by the sips) that destroyed Nebraska. Not sure what rule change will undermine Bama. Probably something to do with NIL


More mythology. Instead of telling us what you think, do your research. Coach Deboer hasn't had the full portal to cherry-pick, but most every guy brought in since season end would be on any SEC team's "A" list. Instead of mindlessly repeating NIL as our downfall, logically explain why we have a collection of 4 and 5-star talent coming in. When the magic portal closes this spring we can have this conversation again.








Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
35598 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 9:09 am to
I think they have that reversed.


No one respects aTm. But OU has a better history as a blue blood that deserves to be respected.

Aggy is angry at everyone and they are ALWAYS digging for respect on the rant and cannot find any.
Posted by Windy City
Member since Jun 2019
2061 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 9:35 am to
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texas may CLAIM OU is their main football rival, and that has most to do with the neutral site and the pageantry of RRS, but i guarantee you they hate losing to a&m more than to ou.


Texas had the misfortune of Bob Stoops making them into a personal gimp during the hot stretch for both programs in the 2000s. If there ever was a time when that game should have had national title implications, it was from 200-2006 but the first four of those games featured some epic blowouts or Texas just not showing up (Roy Williams super man game). Oklahoma then went and turned mediocre during the Texas 2005 title run.

I went and looked . . .OU is 17-8 vs Texas the last 25 years.

Oklahoma needs that game more than Texas right now. They would lose a lot by the Red River rivarly going away while the Horns would be sad but just spew money at some decent alternative.

Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 9:43 am to
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Oklahoma needs that game more than Texas right now. They would lose a lot by the Red River rivarly going away while the Horns would be sad but just spew money at some decent alternative.


Oklahoma is the second most decorated football team the moment they step foot in the SEC. Know your history. Texas talks and Oklahoma walks. They have terrorized college football through the decades.
Posted by Windy City
Member since Jun 2019
2061 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 9:52 am to
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Oklahoma is the second most decorated football team the moment they step foot in the SEC. Know your history. Texas talks and Oklahoma walks. They have terrorized college football through the decades.


I come from a long line of Sooners, so I know the program as well as most any Sooner.

And yes, the contributions the 1950s and 1980s do burnish the historical record but that means little in this day and age of college realignment. OU has the advantage of being the back-up school of choice for most of the North Texas region, so I suppose there will always be some sort of floor for the school. Still, it is a poor, small, unpopulated state and that doesn't sell well in this modern media environment.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
17767 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 9:54 am to
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texas may CLAIM OU is their main football rival, and that has most to do with the neutral site and the pageantry of RRS, but i guarantee you they hate losing to a&m more than to ou.


Two things..

1) As to why OU is our primary football rival..
See my post at the top of page 2. Both teams have been ranked 40 of the last 78 games, including 17 since 2000. Texas vs A&M has 9 total games like that.. and only 7 since 1947. It's just rare that both teams are ranked when the game has been played. When one is good.. the other is usually not.. Add in the location.. the State Fair.. the split stadium.. they are #1

2) Losing to A&M
I tried to find the quote yesterday, but I was not successful. This conversation came up with the last couple of years.. maybe even 2021.. and a Texas poster on here said..

Losing to Texas A&M is worse than losing to Oklahoma.. or something like that..

and it's 100% true.. that doesn't make the Aggies our #1 rival.. it means we expect to lose some to Oklahoma.. they have a better football program historically despite our winning record against them..

on top of that.. as I said earlier.. the A&M game is a water cooler game.. we all have friends, family, co-workers on both sides of the fence.. and it is freaking MISERABLE all year when we lose to the Aggies.. it sucks to lose to Oklahoma for many reasons, but it isn't generally rubbed in our face the same way..

I don't know if that makes sense or not.. but yes, losing to A&M sucks more than losing to Oklahoma.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
17767 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 9:57 am to
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Oklahoma needs that game more than Texas right now. They would lose a lot by the Red River rivarly going away while the Horns would be sad but just spew money at some decent alternative.


On the football field.. it would suck, but I imagine we could come up with something.. but it would 100% totally suck..

Off the football field.. my understanding is that the game matters a lot to both schools because of the donations required to get tickets to that game.. Both schools receive a lot of annual donations that come with the season tickets.. and if you give enough.. you get Texas vs OU tickets.. now this whole thought process is a little backwards since you are likely paying more for the tickets.. but you do get the same seats this way.. next to the same group of people.. and it becomes a tradition.. so for this reason, it matters a whole lot from what I have read.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
12965 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 9:59 am to
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Oklahoma then went and turned mediocre during the Texas 2005 title run.


We didn't "went and turned mediocre" in 2005. We were a young team due to turnover breaking in an entirely new Oline with a Rfr QB while they had a veteran team with VY at the helm. We got our asses kicked as one might expect.

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Oklahoma needs that game more than Texas right now. They would lose a lot by the Red River rivarly going away while the Horns would be sad but just spew money at some decent alternative.


What would we lose?
This post was edited on 4/5/24 at 10:07 am
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
17767 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 10:03 am to
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Oklahoma is the second most decorated football team the moment they step foot in the SEC. Know your history. Texas talks and Oklahoma walks. They have terrorized college football through the decades.

Unfortunately, this is true. They are not Nebraska. Anyone who doesn't believe this will soon find out. Norman is basically North Texas. They have the pipeline and it's basically in their backyard. They also win enough to recruit nationwide..

When they suck, they cut bait quick.. and when they get it right, they usually knock it out of the park. Fortunately, Lincoln never found a defense.. if he had, they would have been a huge problem for everyone.

That holds true at USC as well. The dude is an offensive genius and a great recruiter. It wouldn't take much for USC to be right in the thick of things.. and quick.
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 10:13 am to
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I come from a long line of Sooners, so I know the program as well as most any Sooner.

And yes, the contributions the 1950s and 1980s do burnish the historical record but that means little in this day and age of college realignment. OU has the advantage of being the back-up school of choice for most of the North Texas region, so I suppose there will always be some sort of floor for the school. Still, it is a poor, small, unpopulated state and that doesn't sell well in this modern media environment.


I might shoehorn in the Chuck Fairbanks era in the 1970s as a nice follow-up of the great Bud Wilkinson. Jack Mildren, Pruitt vs Jerry Tage, Johnny Rogers, and the game of the century 1971. That covers the 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s. yes, Oklahoma was wandering in the wilderness after Switzer.

Yes, I would include with pride the 2000s and another NC under Stoops. You might not like the way Lincoln Riley left the program but he kept the Sooners a national power. That takes in the last 20 years plus of this century.

Call yourself poor and pitiful but BAMA is the only school in the SEC that can string wins and championships that far back and through that many decades.
Posted by Windy City
Member since Jun 2019
2061 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 10:15 am to
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We didn't "went and turned mediocre" in 2005. We were a young team due to turnover breaking in an entirely new Oline with a Rfr QB while they had a veteran team with VY at the helm. We got our asses kicked as one might expect.


You were 8-4. That was pretty mediocre by OU standards. None of the losses were embarrassing. TCU, Tech, and UCLA all had pretty good squads that year.

Compared to the dominant run Stoops was enjoying prior, it did not measure up.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
12965 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 10:18 am to
I know what our 2005 record was and it wasn't because we "turned mediocre". We played the entire season with a bunch of babies out there all over the field due to massive turnover. Experience matters kid......
Posted by Windy City
Member since Jun 2019
2061 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 10:24 am to
DP

This post was edited on 4/5/24 at 10:27 am
Posted by Windy City
Member since Jun 2019
2061 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 10:26 am to
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That covers the 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s. yes, Oklahoma was wandering in the wilderness after Switzer.


I view Chuck Fairbanks as hit and miss. He had two good season towards the end but he also had several near .500 seasons when the teams were unranked. His program also was busted for cheating.

The 60s in general were a downcycle for the Sooners compared to the near unprecedented excellence that came under Wilkinson. Gomer Jones was a terrible replacement and was bounced after a few bad seasons Fairbanks had a two Orange Bowl wins but also had several pretty bad teams.

Bud had lost his edge towards the end, and it took Chuck and eventually Barry to get it back to national prominence but it was a bumpy road.
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