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re: Texas is a conference wrecker

Posted on 11/15/24 at 12:42 pm to
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 11/15/24 at 12:42 pm to
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The Big12 was a collection of small schools that the bigger schools were able to throw their weight around and rule over.


You don't even know.

The second year of the Longhorn Network they were having problems getting cable companies to sign up, so ESPN worked it out with Fox for the Texas Tech game (a Tier 1 game in the Big 12) to fall to Tier 3 so the Longhorn Network could broadcast it. Texas was not only ok with this, they leaned on Texas Tech to allow it.

When Texas Tech tried to veto this move, ESPN threated that they wouldn't be on TV at ALL the entire year unless they let Texas have their game to boost the value of a network Texas Tech got nothing from.

Kudos to Texas Tech they said frick off, but the fact it even happened showed what kind of attitude Texas had about the Big 12.
Posted by HorninHouston
Member since Sep 2024
1743 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 12:43 pm to
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Also as part of the LHN contract Texas sold ESPN the TV rights to the Texas high school championship game despite asking NO ONE if it was ok. The Big 12 only found out because an Aggie lawyer did a freedom of information request for the contract.


Fair enough but you do realize we never aired those games right?

It's true we tried to do it, however. Dodds was a sleazeball. Nothing new here.
I've yet to meet a single aggie that will admit they would have taken that espn deal for a network...because you're lying if you say you wouldn't have.
Posted by HorninHouston
Member since Sep 2024
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Posted on 11/15/24 at 12:45 pm to
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but the fact it even happened showed what kind of attitude Texas had about the Big 12


Deloss Dodds. He was an ego maniac and fricking asshat. I hated the guy at the time. Him and his "we are the jones'" bullshite.
Posted by Lizardman2
Member since Jan 2024
2459 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 12:50 pm to
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Texas is a conference wrecker


You scared brah? You seem scared.

Walk your irrelevant arse back to the ACC Board and talk about the old days.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34910 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 12:54 pm to
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Fair enough but you do realize we never aired those games right?



Never? bullshite. Poor Kansas WAS forced to play on your network. That should have been a Tier 2 game on fox, but ESPN let Fox have the OKlahoma State-OU game that year to make it so the Kansas game would fall to the LHN instead of a bullshite out of conference game like everyone in the Big 12 agreed to.

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It's true we tried to do it, however. Dodds was a sleazeball. Nothing new here.


The problem wasn't just Dodds, back then Texas fans were quick to defend the move. That Shaggy forum is long dead so I can't prove it, but I will never forget their justification to me when I went there to call out the bullshite:

"Big dicks swing, Aggy"

Yup even back then Texas fans were obsessed with big dicks.

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I've yet to meet a single aggie that will admit they would have taken that espn deal for a network...because you're lying if you say you wouldn't have.



Because we never got offered that deal. We got offered the "Lonestar Network" where Texas would have taken 70% of the revenue while utilizing 100% of our political influence in the state to pressure other teams to be on it too.

Now from what we know Alabama DID get offered the Longhorn Network deal and they told ESPN to frick off. That is what a good partner looks like.
Posted by auburn2eugene
Now back in Oneonta Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
1271 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 12:55 pm to
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We WILL evict schools that are no longer capable of competing for the playoffs. After a couple of years of reviewing everything, a list will be prvoided to Sankey.


That’s cute. Founding members of the SEC have less than zero chance to be “evicted” regardless of who is on your little list.

I do notice you only mentioned your old conference mates, but even then, you don’t hold the sway in this conference you did in others. You have a slice of the pie. But that’s it. You don’t control others position in this conference.

Frankly I’m astonished no one called you out about this earlier.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34910 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 12:56 pm to
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He was an ego maniac and fricking asshat. I hated the guy at the time. Him and his "we are the jones'" bullshite.


Ok you are alright, I like you.

Any Texas fan not willing to defend the way Dodds treated conference partners (and A&M after we left the conference) is ok in my book.

He is the primary reason the two teams didn't play for so long, he pissed us off so much by the time he was gone we didn't want to have anything to do with Texas.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
19638 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 12:57 pm to
ACCFAN's mom is a home wrecker.

Every home she goes in is disbanded. She sold out his brothers for a couple of rocks that she already smoked behind Wendy's.
Posted by HorninHouston
Member since Sep 2024
1743 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 12:58 pm to
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Now from what we know Alabama DID get offered the Longhorn Network deal and they told ESPN to frick off. That is what a good partner looks like.


that's because the SEC are good partners. You weren't in the SEC and would have taken that deal. The big 12 was every man for himself and yes I admit we played a huge part in that.

As for the games we never aired, I'm referring to the high school games which admittedly would have been an unfair advantage.

Lastly, we didn't all support Dodds' bullshite. The fan base was split with those supporting dodds and those that couldn't stand him. I was a member of shaggy at the time. I remember it well.
Still get triggered by Dodds. He cared about money far more than winning. Never seemed to have an issue seeing stoops tea bag our arse every fricking year.
This post was edited on 11/15/24 at 1:00 pm
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
23202 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 12:59 pm to
I thought Tejas had big money but apparently they poors, Michigan showing them what real money is. Sorry you poor of tejas
Posted by woodhog14
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Jul 2011
1006 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 1:02 pm to
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Dummy. The "brothers" left us high and dry.

Nebraska
Colorado
Texas A&M
Missouri

We once had a good conference until all those phuckers took off.


Dummy.

They left because Texas wanted more money and got more money from the conference.

Big 12 would still be here if they did equal TV revenue sharing, but nope. Texas thought they should get the most money.

Same with the SWC.

Texas destroyed 2 conferences because of their holier than thou attitude. That is a fact.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34910 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 1:12 pm to
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that's because the SEC are good partners. You weren't in the SEC and would have taken that deal


Ironically we ended up making more for our AD over that period than Texas did with the LHN because yall were forced to share the money with the school for political reasons while our AD got to dump the SEC windfall into facilities. So sometimes things work out.

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The big 12 was every man for himself and yes I admit we played a huge part in that.


Frankly it started that way Baylor should have never gotten in over Houston but politics formed the Big 12.

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As for the games we never aired, I'm referring to the high school games which admittedly would have been an unfair advantage.


Yeah the NCAA shut that down, but only after the contract was made public (which Texas did not do voluntarily). At that point Texas was already going to get their money so they didn't care, it was ESPN that got screwed by that deal which is why the cancelled the last few years of the LHN contract to get Texas in the SEC.

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Lastly, we didn't all support Dodds' bullshite. The fan base was split with those supporting dodds and those that couldn't stand him. I was a member of shaggy at the time. I remember it well.


Frankly I think its a Texas thing, I can admit we Aggies are just as bad about trying to play with a stacked deck (and then bragging about it) when we can.

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Still get triggered by Dodds. He cared about money far more than winning.


Yall's program was really different in that era, Mack Brown has a hustle going trading billionaires like McCombs money for program access and Dodds leaned in on it.

Also yall's AD was bloated back then which drove the need for more revenue. At least yall have undone the whole "women's AD" BS that doubled the staff size.

Yall's current president really cleaned up the mess and I admire that. How he came to the SEC- giving the Big 12 programs that were left behind years to adjust- was very respectful even if I didn't like the move personally. Compared to how USC fricked over the PAC its night and day, yall are no longer the big villains in college football.

But I hate revisionist history where poor Texas isn't the reason the original Big 12 fell apart, Dodds's handprints were all over the murder weapon.
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
10238 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 1:18 pm to
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But I hate revisionist history


Classic.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34910 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 1:20 pm to
Tell me where anything I have said about Texas and the Big 12 isn't accurate.
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
10238 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 1:25 pm to
Kindly provide support to your claim that Alabama was offered (and turned down) their own ESPN sponsored network.

Anything.

Prove that one and I won't even open the can of crap that was told leading up to that.
Posted by Taurus 357
Great Lakes
Member since Dec 2014
5582 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 5:34 pm to
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You have a slice of the pie. But that’s it. You don’t control others position in this conference.



Sounds awfully communist to me.
Posted by carolinaswamper
unincorporated swamp, johns island,
Member since Jan 2013
3572 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 5:40 pm to
So is Georgia Tech
Posted by SOBMarcus
Boerne TX
Member since Apr 2020
2652 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 5:51 pm to
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Big 12 would still be here if they did equal TV revenue sharing, but nope


Hey retard… Big 12 is still here.
There’s another fact for ya
Posted by Monahans
Member since Sep 2019
2163 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 6:26 pm to
I’m assuming this is another bleeding vagina aggie pretending to be a Miami fan
Posted by tBrand
Member since Oct 2022
3077 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 6:34 pm to
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Big 12 would still be here if they did equal TV revenue sharing, but nope. Texas thought they should get the most money.

Do you think Texas had more than 1 vote? That big bad Texas vetoed a 1-11 vote to force unequal revenue down the throat of the conference?
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