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re: Texas AM endowment supremacy challenged

Posted on 2/8/22 at 6:50 am to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61632 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 6:50 am to
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How does 9-1 in 2019 rate as 8-4 annually?


You're too stupid to realize that you went 7-5 in 2019.


Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
35589 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 10:49 am to
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You’re too stupid to do math


You’re too stupid to put a coherent paragraph together.

Go read that aloud, son.

What the hell is your point?

I’d love to know how your drivel was even a response to what I said.


Take your time or just downvote over there >>vv
This post was edited on 2/8/22 at 11:41 am
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
58880 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 11:55 am to
Considering TAMU and Utx have the PUF and VU does not this is more impressive for VU (a small private university in the South).

Also, for all those just commenting on VU's baseball natty's, lest you forget bowling bitches!

Posted by Haricougar
Member since Dec 2020
225 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 12:29 pm to
When it was started,IIRC, UT had more schools in the university system plus UIL. A&M only had PV A&M & the forestry service.

UT has always been the center for higher education in the state. Its closeness to the legislature and its alumni that are often in leadership positions there.

I understand this is a rant section but I can appreciate both Texas and my alma mater has fine universities.
Posted by Jster15
Member since Aug 2019
2529 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 12:55 pm to
Point is, you and Sidewalk are a couple of ignorants. Lol...you two aren’t the guys to match up with anyone education wise.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
35589 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 12:59 pm to
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Point is, you and Sidewalk are a couple of ignorants. Lol...you two aren’t the guys to match up with anyone education wise.


No. I am TRYING to get you to expound on this:
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How does 9-1 in 2019 rate as 8-4 annually? Is that your room temperature IQ at work? Of course any LSU fan commenting on won-loss records the last two years is demonstrated retardation. LSU lost its Ohio State QB and could only win 11 games in two seasons with the number 3,4 and 5th ranked recruiting classes.??


Maybe you can try…again….on request #3

Try it.




And you keeeeep talking about education

This post was edited on 2/8/22 at 1:03 pm
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 1:15 pm to
It was started in 1876 & defined in legislature in 1937.

PUF was created for "The University" as stated by the Texas Constitution, A&M was/is still defined as a branch of UTAustin & included as a benefactor of the AUF w/ 1/3 distributions in 1937.

Article 7 sec. 10-18 of the Texas Constitution of 1876 spells everything out.
Posted by Krampus
Member since Nov 2018
5515 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 1:42 pm to
A&M was founded under the Morrill Act in 1871, while the Constitution of 1869 was in effect in Texas, prior to the adoption of the Constitution of 1876, as a standalone instituion complete with its own board of regents, seperate and apart from UT, and has never been merged into the UT system, despite the clause you reference in the Constitution of 1876.

The horse had already left the barn by the time the Constitution of 1876 was ratified, A&M was already established and operating, and nothing was ever done to reorganize the two universities to match the language in the document. It's a vestige of reconstruction era Texas, operating under three constitutions plus a federally appointed reconstruction governer all in less than 20 years. Just because one document adopted by one of the operating governments after the fact says something, doesn't mean that's what actually happened in reality.

A&M operates, and always has, as a seperate university system, just like Tech, UH, UNT, etc.
This post was edited on 2/8/22 at 1:54 pm
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 2:37 pm to
All of which has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation.

You wanna know the 40 year debate over the PUF & the truth? Read the TX Constitution & the meeting minutes from the UT Board of Regents as well as the Directors of A&M College of Texas during the period.

Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8796 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 2:46 pm to
It's very tiresome discussing this with you and your lack of understanding of the PUF and the politics involved with it.

Yes, the PUF was changed in '37 but the reason it hasn't been changed is because A&M and to a much greater extent Texas have invested heavily in their other System schools that are covered by the PUF. Essentially they have been making a huge push for schools like UTSA and UTD to become solid Tier 2 schools instead of commuter schools. UTD especially has an excellent Computer Science Department. I did college recruiting and they are probably on a similar level to NC State academically now. Texas is essentially trying to model the UC System with Austin being Berkeley but it is unlikely the other campuses can become Tier 1 for several decades (UC has multiple Tier 1's in their system). A&M and Texas protect their PUF access as their top political priority and they work in concert to make sure it isn't shared outside of their System, that requires compromises.

As stated by others A&M has never been a part of the Texas System. The original language establishing the schools in that one version of the Constitution talked about it but it never happened. A&M was formed in 1876, Texas in 1883. By the time Texas opened it's doors A&M was already separate and that never changed, the schools have never been a part of the same system nor has Texas ever had any real power over A&M. The PUF also is technically administered by the Texas Board of Regents but UTIMCO that actually manages the money has reps from both schools. That's really just about where they are investing though and not any relation to how the money is dispersed.

Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 3:21 pm to
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t's very tiresome discussing this with you and your lack of understanding of the PUF and the politics involved with it.


Did you wear yourself out trying to explain the distribution split created in ‘37 by listing the 2022 enrollment base?

Showcase your knowledge.. how was it that it took 50+ years of efforts for A&M College to get an official cut?

What specific contributions has A&M ever made to the PUF or University Lands?

What authority has A&M ever had over the PUF & related assets?

In short, why would A&M be positioned as a beneficiary of the AUF while no other non UT System university does not?
Posted by PassingThrough
Member since Sep 2021
2622 posts
Posted on 2/8/22 at 5:08 pm to
Well now yall made me look up my alma mater because I was curious. Apparently, the endowment has 1.29 million for each current student enrolled-- not bad.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61632 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 1:58 pm to
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Point is, you and Sidewalk are a couple of ignorants. Lol...you two aren’t the guys to match up with anyone education wise.


This coming from the moron who doesn't even know his own school's record:

quote:

How does 9-1 in 2019 rate as 8-4 annually?



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