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re: Tennessee “'talent fee'
Posted on 9/17/24 at 1:42 pm to MtVernon
Posted on 9/17/24 at 1:42 pm to MtVernon
I have had 4 season tickets to UGA games since the early 90's. I would GLADLY pay double what we are paying now IF they would give us the area of 6 seats with the understanding that there were only 4 tickets available. That would reduce the capacity of Sanford Stadium by 33% while doubling ticket revenue. Very few people who buy season tickets seriously complain about costs. I complain about it but I can quit paying it anytime I damn well please. My biggest complaint with attending games in person is the size of the crowd. 60,000 spread out in Sanford Stadium instead of 90,000 and a 100% increase in the cost of tickets would make for a far better experience during games. People will say that the costs are already too much for most people but nobody is being forced to pay them. Buying a boat with 4 - 400 hp outboards is more money than I am willing to pay but no one is forcing me to do so.
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 1:51 pm to VolSquatch
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It absolutely is. The forces of the free market led us here once the door was opened by leftist political pressure.
The forces of the free market do not lead to government intervention.
There was no fraud or anything else going on, and the entire thing was voluntary. They did not practice in doing anything to keep competitors away etc.
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Did the new NIL law force schools to create these collectives and start charging more for tickets to pay players? No? Why is that? It couldn't possibly be that there is now a market for the services of college football players, and via market powers schools decided its fiscally beneficial to invest in a good athletic program via investing in athletes.
Schools did not create the collectives, boosters did.
I guess next they'll be getting rid of the salary cap in major professional sports right? Because the idea that people and organizations are FREE to enter into agreements with restrictions in order to create a product aren't allowed in your communistic view of free markets.
You are merely cashing out to the current players a product that was built on the previous model.
The actual free market says a player is free to pursue other opportunities. And they always have been. Actual free market says other leagues are able to be formed to compete against them, that has been tried and failed over and over. What does those players actually get? About $50k a year and shite benefits. Much less than that of a college kid.
All you are doing is ruining the product, which was built on the principles of competition between schools and amateurism while only like 1% of college athletes are actually getting paid much if anything.
If there were fraud or something like that going on, then sure get the courts involved. But otherwise it's about as free market as a minimum wage.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 2:07 pm to geauxtigs99
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College football hit its peak of fandom in the mid 2000’s.
Because you said so?
Posted on 9/17/24 at 2:17 pm to Wanruningchen
10% across the board is a shite ton of money if it were to all go to the players
Posted on 9/17/24 at 2:24 pm to Pelican fan99
I love Arkansas, but if they try to slip this Fan Tax by the goalie, I hope we as fans counter with its time to purge the roster by 10-20%. There's your saved NIL money, Yurachek. Pay only for the best to be on campus.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 2:26 pm to 3down10
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The forces of the free market do not lead to government intervention
I think you missed the last part here, so I'll say it again
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It absolutely is. The forces of the free market led us here once the door was opened by leftist political pressure.
The whole deal was started by leftists, thats correct. What its become after the door was opened has a lot to do with free market economics.
And the government really hasn't been all that involved up until this point.
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I guess next they'll be getting rid of the salary cap in major professional sports right? Because the idea that people and organizations are FREE to enter into agreements with restrictions in order to create a product aren't allowed in your communistic view of free markets.
But they weren't FREE to use their own name to make money, that's completely anti-American. I hate the current system, but its common sense that if someone is willing to pay you for something like an autograph, endorsement, etc you should be able to do it. They went further than that and it went off the rails.
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The actual free market says a player is free to pursue other opportunities. And they always have been. Actual free market says other leagues are able to be formed to compete against them, that has been tried and failed over and over. What does those players actually get? About $50k a year and shite benefits. Much less than that of a college kid.
I was fine with this model, I just think players should be able to make money off their own name in addition to getting the scholarship.
Nothing you said goes against my point, like at all .
Leftist politicians started NIL, where it has gone from there is at least partly because of how the free market reacted to it. if you say it isn't free market because of some restrictions and because some entities have tried and failed to replace it, then free markets don't exist in any aspect
Posted on 9/17/24 at 2:37 pm to VolSquatch
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The whole deal was started by leftists, thats correct. What its become after the door was opened has a lot to do with free market economics.
And the government really hasn't been all that involved up until this point.
No, it doesn't. People upset with the free market because of what they perceive to be "fair" are responsible. The free market was working just fine.
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But they weren't FREE to use their own name to make money, that's completely anti-American. I hate the current system, but its common sense that if someone is willing to pay you for something like an autograph, endorsement, etc you should be able to do it. They went further than that and it went off the rails.
They were 100% free to use their own name to make money at any point.
They were not free to FORCE an organization to allow them to have a scholarship and play football be part of college sports after doing so. You didn't give them freedom, you took away the freedom of the organizations.
What's next, you gonna call the ability to own slaves giving the slave owners the freedom to do that while ignoring the fact you've removed the freedom of someone else in the process? You took away the freedom for an organization to create a product based on voluntary restrictions, and what's most annoying is you ignorantly blame the free market for it.
For some reason, their NIL is seemingly worthless unless they are inside the system that was created without it. If they were making millions off NIL otherwise, why are they even playing football to begin with?
But you want to overlook that part. You instead want to frame it as if they had all this value otherwise, when in reality they did not.
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I was fine with this model, I just think players should be able to make money off their own name in addition to getting the scholarship.
Nothing you said goes against my point, like at all .
Except they aren't making money off their own name, they are getting paid to play which completely negates the model the entire sport was built on for over 100 years.
AKA the reason why such things weren't allowed to begin with. Not because the NCAA is an evil slave organization that millions of people would gladly sign up for every year oddly.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 2:40 pm to Wanruningchen
The smart people have taken over this thread. 
Posted on 9/17/24 at 2:43 pm to 3down10
If I the season ticket holder has to pay for part of these guys salaries..............then I should be able to tell a Jack arse getting my money to sit the hell down!!
I am part ticket holder/part owner then........and I a player sucks we/the ticket holders then have a say.
This whole thing sucks.
I am part ticket holder/part owner then........and I a player sucks we/the ticket holders then have a say.
This whole thing sucks.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:14 pm to 3down10
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Except they aren't making money off their own name, they are getting paid to play which completely negates the model the entire sport was built on for over 100 years.
I KNOW, THATS WHAT I SAID
And free market processes hyper accelerated the payment models.
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They were 100% free to use their own name to make money at any point.
lol, no they weren't. Kids could get suspended and ruled ineligible for signing autographs.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:14 pm to PrideOfTheSouthland
Yes
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:23 pm to VolSquatch
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lol, no they weren't. Kids could get suspended and ruled ineligible for signing autographs.
There was no legal ramifications for them doing so, and it was 100% legal for them to do it at any point.
What you are demanding is the NCAA is not free to set the standards and rules for themselves. As usual those who hate freedom do so out of fear of what others will do with their freedom.
As long as you ignore that, go frick yourself commie.
This post was edited on 9/17/24 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:27 pm to CarolinaGamecock99
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Love how fans are being forced to foot the bill for all this NIL bullshite
Who did you think was going to pay it?
This post was edited on 9/17/24 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:28 pm to Wanruningchen
Is this like paying a cover at the strip club?
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:30 pm to Jdgood1
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Is this like paying a cover at the strip club?
Many here will think you're kidding around but I know Sooners.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:30 pm to MtVernon
quote:Well then you are a retarded magat frickboy.
Man this is going to be the end of the sport we all love.
I blame on it the Left.
THE SCOTUS IS MAGA, Numbnuts. THEY did this.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:31 pm to BevoBucks
quote:Your entertainment?
So, what’s the other 100% of the ticket going to pay for?
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:32 pm to Sao
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I hope we as fans counter with its time to purge the roster by 10-20%. There's your saved NIL money, Yurachek. Pay only for the best to be on campus.
D2 going to be loaded
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:33 pm to bigDgator
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Who did you think was going to pay it?
my neighbor. rich bastard's mansion is bigger than mine.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:35 pm to Slackaveli
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THE SCOTUS IS MAGA, Numbnuts. THEY did this.
You moron, it was unanimous.
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