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re: Team name/mascot origins.

Posted on 8/26/17 at 4:04 pm to
Posted by TOFTR
Tennissippi
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 4:04 pm to
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2030? At the rate we're going you'll be lucky to make it to the end of the year.

It's not something that Ole Miss could just do in the wee hours of the morning, like removing statues. I wouldn't be surprised if Ole Miss was forced to start the process in the next 18 months, but I hope not. Still sucks knowing "Rebels" and possibly even "Ole Miss" itself likely have their days numbered at this point
Posted by BranchDawg
Flowery Branch
Member since Nov 2013
10078 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 4:17 pm to
Bulldogs is for a couple of reasons.

1 - One of the school's first presidents was from Yale and many of the buildings around campus at the time were modeled after Yale buildings (hint, Yale is the Bulldogs)

2 - They were coined that by a newspaper writer, similar to how Bama was.

It eventually became so commonplace it was adopted as the official mascot. Fun fact - we were originally the Goats. We even had a live goat mascot at every game for several years.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10937 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 4:51 pm to
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Gonna be interesting to see how long after Ole Miss is forced to change everything it takes for the pc police to go after LSU.


It's not like our mascot or branding is based on Confederate soldier or a plantation owner.
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 4:56 pm to
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It's not like our mascot or branding is based on Confederate soldier or a plantation owner.




The name fighting tigers comes from a group of confederate soldiers, and of course PETA is always mad about live mascots. I am not saying I agree with them, but if Jefferson's monuments are not safe from the pc police, then nothing is.
This post was edited on 8/26/17 at 4:58 pm
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 4:56 pm to
double post
This post was edited on 8/26/17 at 4:57 pm
Posted by TOFTR
Tennissippi
Member since Jan 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 5:00 pm to
Neither is Ole Miss' branding, especially in the year 2017. Surely you remember making fun of the Rebel Black Bears... What makes LSU's homage to the Fighting Tigers so different from Ole Miss' homage to the University Greys, other than the Greys were made up of Ole Miss students and the Tigers were a general Louisiana regiment? Both team names absolutely have Confederate roots
Posted by bayoubengal11
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
307 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 6:10 pm to
The biggest difference is that the everyday fan/viewer/etc isn't going to make the connection with fighting tigers and csa regiments. Y'all made it difficult not to see it. That said, it still wouldn't surprise me if the PCpolice came after us in the next decade.

...and yea, screw PETA
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 7:26 pm to
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Tennessee adopted the name Volunteers, or more commonly Vols, because of a now-official nickname that Tennessee received during the War of 1812, the Volunteer State. The name became even more prominent in the Mexican War when Governor Aaron V. Brown issued a call for 2,800 men to battle Santa Ana and some 30,000 Tennesseans volunteered.


I wonder how many of these men fought in the Civil War for the South. I'm sure their grandfathers/fathers/uncles/etc did.
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 7:41 pm to
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I wonder how many of these men fought in the Civil War for the South. I'm sure their grandfathers/fathers/uncles/etc did.


more like children and grandchildren
Posted by morriscat2
tennessee
Member since Jun 2012
2291 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 7:54 pm to
Cornelius Vanderbilt got his start ferrying New Yorkers across the Hudson River. Thus the nickname "Commodores".
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9957 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 10:59 pm to
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I just read that Alabama was named after red dirt.


Idk if you read the right story
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 11:13 pm to
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Thomas Sumter, revolutionary war hero, was nicknamed "The Fighting Gamecock"


What I find ironically hilarious is that, traditionally, ALL native South Carolinians are referred to as "Gamecocks". Yep...ALL South Carolinians.

Even them.

This post was edited on 8/26/17 at 11:18 pm
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
43059 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 12:13 am to
I thought we were Sandlappers?
Posted by DannyB
Bagram, Afghanistan
Member since Aug 2010
6141 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 6:10 am to
Auburn is called the Tigers and Plainsmen and the town referred to as 'The Loveliest Village on the Plains' from the poem, 'The Deserted Village' by Oliver Goldsmith.

There are several different stories around about where the battle cry, WAR EAGLE, came from, but my favorite is this one:

The most popular—and most repeated—story about the “War Eagle” cry comes from the first football game that Auburn played when the Tigers faced Georgia at Piedmont Park in Atlanta. A Civil War veteran was in attendance with his pet eagle that he had picked up on a battlefield some 30 years prior to the game.

According to eyewitness accounts of the game, the pet eagle broke loose right as the Auburn team was making a charge down the field, guiding the Tigers to a victory. The Auburn fans in attendance yelled “War Eagle” and according to the tradition the battle cry was born.
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 6:53 am to
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I thought we were Sandlappers?


Before we were dubbed Sandlappers, South Carolinians were referred to as Gamecocks in honor of Sumter. There's a story about it under Thomas Sumter's wikipedia.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70282 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:12 am to
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Thomas Sumter, revolutionary war hero, was nicknamed "The Fighting Gamecock"





Whom Fort Sumpter was named, confederates shot up the place to start the civil war. Sumpter is therefore racist, and i demand a name change for the universiry of south carolina.


Thats the kind of stupid crap i am sick of hearing in society today.

Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 7:26 am to
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Fort Sumpter


Sumter. There is no 'p' in Sumter. Not in his name, not in the city and especially not Fort Sumter.

It's pronounced like it has a 'p' in it, tho.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
31058 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 8:14 am to
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I just read that Alabama was named after red dirt.

WTF!!....well I'm not surprised that your reading comprehension level could create such an idea.
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 9:34 am to
He is not far off. He said dirt in stead of mud, but was close enough.

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The term 'Crimson Tide' was coined by Hugh Roberts, past sports editor for the Birmingham Age-Herald. He used the nickname to describe the 1907 Auburn-Alabama game played in Birmingham," the department's website explains. "The game, played in a sea of crimson mud, was the last game played between the two rivals until 1948 when the series resumed. The term coined because the red mud stained the Alabama white jerseys crimson. Alabama held Auburn, the favorite to win, to a 6-6 tie, gaining the name the 'Crimson Tide.' 'Roll Tide' was said to illustrate the Alabama varsity running on the field. It was said the team looked like the tide was rolling in thus gaining the chant 'Roll Tide.'"


LINK

and here is what a real crimson tide is


quote:

Crimson Tide (a.k.a. "Toxic Algal Bloom") has been a common occurrence in the coastal areas of the temperate and tropical regions of the planet. In the marine environment, single-celled, microscopic, plant-like organisms naturally occur in the well-lit surface layer of any body of water. These organisms, referred to as phytoplankton or microalgae, form the base of the food web upon which nearly all other marine organisms depend. Unfortunately, depending on where you go , or you ask, there is concern that the biological weapons programs of different nations may have led to the recent mutation of the Crimson Tide into a more toxic variety. Some environmentalists believe that the recent events of the Third Great War have triggered an "evolutionary event" within the oceans of the planet. Either way, many scientists fear that the crimson tide events threaten the food supply, and may threaten the food supply of coastal communities.

Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
61290 posts
Posted on 8/27/17 at 10:08 am to
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Interesting.


Snotty really, if the Smails kids and this "slow coach" are both booger eaters that is not exactly selling they are the sharpest tools in the shed.





As for this booger, I hear those Mu's sure can party!

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