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re: TD BCS guru has spoken...
Posted on 11/16/11 at 4:29 pm to I Love Bama
Posted on 11/16/11 at 4:29 pm to I Love Bama
quote:Unfortunately for you and Bama, you're wrong. OU's win over OSU would trump any win on Bama's schedule, especially if LSU hangs a 2nd "L" on the Hogs. OU will swap spots with OSU in the polls. May not be fair, but that's what will happen.
I will put a 2 month ban bet that if Alabama wins out and OKS loses, Bama is in.
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Posted on 11/16/11 at 4:29 pm to JPLSU1981
It is going to be so funny because whether they admit it or not, most bama fans are counting on a rematch if OSU goes down...the sec rant will be in meltdown mode when that happens. I'm rooting for OU.
Posted on 11/16/11 at 4:30 pm to DelU249
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I'm rooting for OU.
You should be. They'd roll over for you in the NC game
Posted on 11/16/11 at 4:30 pm to LSUdm21
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No they don't. It would be complete and utter bull shite if a team that doesn't have to play a championship game gets rewarded with a shot at the title. OU and Oregon would then have the upper hand over Bama.
The point I was trying to make went COMPLETELY over your head.....AGAIN.
Teams do not have to even win their division to make the title game which has been proven already by history. With that FACT being established, a reasonable argument can be made that if certain teams lose that Alabama could wind up in the title game. OU doesn't play in a title game btw. Heck, they did even win their conference championship game one year and still got in. I've even seen LSU fans saying that they'll still get in to the BCS title game with a loss against UGA (which I agree could happen).
Posted on 11/16/11 at 4:34 pm to Mr. Shake
I'll admit it. I'm scared to play bama in the NC. Not bc I think we'd lose, I'd actually give us about a 75/25 chance to win the game. Like someone else said earlier and no Bama fans responded to, if LSU and Bama play again the NC and bama somehow wins then:
LSU will have finished the season with 1 more win than Bama, courtesy of the SECC game. In addition to Alabama, LSU will have also beaten Oregon, Georgia, and Arkansas. Alabama will have only beaten Arkansas and LSU. So head to head the teams would split, LSU winning on the road, Alabama winning at a slightly pro LSU neutral site, yet just bc Alabama won the second of the two games they'd be the NC. That's why LSU doesn't want to play bama.
LSU will have finished the season with 1 more win than Bama, courtesy of the SECC game. In addition to Alabama, LSU will have also beaten Oregon, Georgia, and Arkansas. Alabama will have only beaten Arkansas and LSU. So head to head the teams would split, LSU winning on the road, Alabama winning at a slightly pro LSU neutral site, yet just bc Alabama won the second of the two games they'd be the NC. That's why LSU doesn't want to play bama.
Posted on 11/16/11 at 4:36 pm to Govt Tide
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It's so intellectually dishonest and hypocritical when you consider LSU lost 2 games including their last regular season game and still snuck in the national title game.
It's funny. They got in a NCG with losses to not one, but two, shitty teams. Yet, they vehemently oppose Alabama getting in with a 3 pt ot loss to the #1 ranked team. Bunch of titty babies that think they'll lose is all it is. Two best teams in the country should play for the BSC title right? Nah they want the weakest opponent as possible.
Posted on 11/16/11 at 4:36 pm to attheua
OU rolls over for everyone, even boise
OSU is the scariest matchup for LSU, not Bama, and given the intrigue of #1 vs. #2, best offense vs. best defense, Les Miles' new fox and old hag...
that's the matchup anyone who wants an interesting championship game should be rooting for
and I'm not even going to argue against a rematch because everyone here knows that it's not going to happen and they know why it should not happen
OSU is the scariest matchup for LSU, not Bama, and given the intrigue of #1 vs. #2, best offense vs. best defense, Les Miles' new fox and old hag...
that's the matchup anyone who wants an interesting championship game should be rooting for
and I'm not even going to argue against a rematch because everyone here knows that it's not going to happen and they know why it should not happen
Posted on 11/16/11 at 4:36 pm to attheua
I totally understand where all the arguments against a rematch come from.
If Bama had won on Nov. 5, I'd be arguing like hell against a rematch with LSU.
But, the BCSNCG is the ONLY BCS bowl that is not required to include a conference champion. So all this "you didn't win your conference" talk is meaningless.
If Bama had won on Nov. 5, I'd be arguing like hell against a rematch with LSU.
But, the BCSNCG is the ONLY BCS bowl that is not required to include a conference champion. So all this "you didn't win your conference" talk is meaningless.
This post was edited on 11/16/11 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 11/16/11 at 4:37 pm to tigerfan88
Well said and thanks for your honesty. I think this is what Bama fans really mean when they use the word "scared".
Posted on 11/16/11 at 4:38 pm to Govt Tide
quote:100% yes.
a reasonable argument can be made that if certain teams lose that Alabama could wind up in the title game.
If a 2-loss OU beats OSU, or if a 1-loss OSU beats OU, or LSU ends up with 2 losses, a 1-loss Bama gets in.
Posted on 11/16/11 at 4:41 pm to NC_Tigah
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100% yes.
If a 2-loss OU beats OSU, or if a 1-loss OSU beats OU, or LSU ends up with 2 losses, a 1-loss Bama gets in.
This is all I was ever really trying to say. I think it would take one of those scenarios with OU/OSU playing out for it to happen.
Posted on 11/16/11 at 4:42 pm to NC_Tigah
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or LSU ends up with 2 losses
I think it's been historically proven that LSU must have at least 3 losses to be ruled out of the BSCNCG.
too bad for Bama
Posted on 11/16/11 at 4:56 pm to JPLSU1981
I wonder why Vegas has Bama at 3/2 to win the BCSCG and OU at 10/1? It seems like if the guru is correct, then Vegas is way off with their odds.
This post was edited on 11/16/11 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 11/16/11 at 4:58 pm to Mr. Shake
quote:Yep, but only relevant because it's also been historically proven that Bama can always lose to Auburn, even up 24 at half, and a 2-loss LSU gets in before a 2-loss Bama does.
I think it's been historically proven that LSU must have at least 3 losses to be ruled out of the BSCNCG.
Posted on 11/16/11 at 4:59 pm to Mr. Shake
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If Bama had won on Nov. 5, I'd be arguing like hell against a rematch with LSU.
I'm not hoping for a rematch. If Bama had won on Nov. 5, I wouldn't be whining about who they had to play for a MNC either.
ETA: Here's to the LSU fans who don't care who they play in the championship game. All the rest are just whiny bitches in my book.
This post was edited on 11/16/11 at 5:10 pm
Posted on 11/16/11 at 5:00 pm to JPLSU1981
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And if LSU were to beat OU or Oklahoma State, then you may very well be the second best teams, but it would be moot anyway because LSU would have beaten everyone in the Top5, making any rematches unnecessary.
That is the situation that the BCS is trying to create. I guess from that standpoint, it is a success. Look back just prior to the BCS and see how rare top 5 matchups were. In truth, at the end of the season, the winning team will have a case against almost everyone ranked or unranked. They are most likely linked within a game of one of the others in the top 10, and certainly within two.
Posted on 11/16/11 at 5:06 pm to liferedeemed
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Look back just prior to the BCS and see how rare top 5 matchups were. In truth, at the end of the season, the winning team will have a case against almost everyone ranked or unranked.
It was a beauty contest actually. A team could have an early loss and work their way back up in the polls.
Posted on 11/16/11 at 5:13 pm to beaverfever
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I just read until I found something obviously wrong in his post. There is zero chance an 11-1 or even 12-1 Oregon has a higher computer ranking than an 11-1 Arkansas. He is just another biased poster.
Yeah, right. You may not be aware that lsumatt has been doing this for years, and has been dead on accurate pretty much every time. He even spelled out the path for LSU to get back into the top 2 and the NC game after the loss to Arkie in '07. No one can predict the poll voters perfectly, but he can nail it on what the computers will do. If you have any chance of his being wrong, look to the voters, not the computers, because he will be right on the money on those.
Posted on 11/16/11 at 5:13 pm to arlo
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I'm not hoping for a rematch.
really? Do you not want one, or do you just think we have no shot of getting there? I'd LOVE a rematch, whether anyone else believes we deserve one or not.
Posted on 11/16/11 at 5:17 pm to TreyAnastasio
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If I were an LSU fan I would want to play UO again
No, if you were an LSU fan, you'd be smarter than you are now, and would think differently.
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