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re: Talks Of Oregon & Wash. To B1G Begin In April

Posted on 3/12/23 at 8:03 am to
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
13225 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 8:03 am to
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If the SEC adds more schools it should be tv markets that there are currently no SEC teams.


Does not matter anymore. It did in 1995 but not in 2023.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37642 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 8:08 am to
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Big 10 is clearly trying to be the nationwide conference


It makes sense to make a western pod to reduce travel across the country.
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
4663 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 8:12 am to
Ohio State and Notre Dame, please. It won’t happen, but imagine a football conference with these schools:

Florida
Georgia
Tennessee
Alabama
Auburn
LSU
Texas
Oklahoma
Notre Dame
Ohio State
This post was edited on 3/12/23 at 8:36 am
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
14275 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 8:14 am to
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Does not matter anymore. It did in 1995 but not in 2023.


Other fan bases are not as rabid about college football like SEC fan bases. More people in your conference viewership means a larger TV contract.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37642 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 8:14 am to
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Does not matter anymore. It did in 1995 but not in 2023.


Until streaming services start bidding on and winning conference contracts it absolutely does still matter. Those huge TV contracts are what is driving this. The biggest advantage the B1G has over the SEC right now contractually is that the B1G has an escalation clause for adding teams that the SEC doesn't match.
Posted by Chad4Bama
Member since Sep 2020
7235 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 8:20 am to
North Carolina & Florida State if I could just choose 2 if they were adding more. The FSU brand would carry more weight in TV contract negotiations than just adding someone like West Virginia in a new state in the footprint. And I'd prefer to add the flagship university if it is new state, like UNC. North Carolina makes sense geographically and would give the SEC 2 of the 5 "blue blood" basketball programs. (Kentucky, UNC, Duke, UCLA, Kansas)
This post was edited on 3/12/23 at 8:23 am
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
50851 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 8:30 am to
Fla st and Clemson with 2033 start date
Posted by auisssa
Member since Feb 2010
4552 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 8:37 am to
The University of Louisiana and Georgia State
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
14718 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 8:39 am to
Agree, bringing some intelligence up in here!
Posted by Bwmdx
Member since Dec 2018
3200 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:01 am to
I believe the ACC has a huge buy out and grant of rights clause in their last contract. But, supposedly if the whole conference implodes then that all goes to the wayside. So, if we are wanting ACC teams them we, and possibly B1G, would have to kill the conference to make it happen.

I imagine the B1G would want a North Carolina school and one from Virginia and, this is where there may be a bit of competition, a Florida school. The SEC won’t want the B1G planting a flag in the middle of SEC territory if FSU was added to them. That’s why I think FSU would get gobbled up by the SEC first. Let them have Miami instead. UVA and UNC would be nice but culturally I feel Vtech and NCSt would fit in better. Would take any 3 of these to put us at 20.

Clemson be ok but we already have one school with a weird cult like vibe to it.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130456 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:02 am to
They can have them
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
36235 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 10:59 am to
There is simply no reason to expand for the sake of expanding. The only exception would be Notre Dame and they ain’t coming to the SEC.
Posted by GoldenDawg
Dawg in Exile
Member since Oct 2013
20835 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 11:09 am to
We should stand pat. We are just fine with what we have. The only way SEC expansion will make sense at this point is if the ACC starts to disintegrate. And then we should leave FSU, Clemson and Tech out of it and concentrate on North Carolina and Virginia - two southern states that would fit in with the SEC very nicely.
Posted by 195bc
Member since Mar 2022
154 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 11:10 am to
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Until streaming services start bidding on and winning conference contracts it absolutely does still matter. Those huge TV contracts are what is driving this. The biggest advantage the B1G has over the SEC right now contractually is that the B1G has an escalation clause for adding teams that the SEC doesn't match.


Not correct. Everything already is streaming. All the networks are “streaming services.” Fans have the channels they want wherever they live. The driver is no longer about market area, it’s about how many viewers a team attracts, and those two things are very different.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37642 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 11:27 am to
And which teams attract the most viewers? Hint: I already know the answer.
Posted by 195bc
Member since Mar 2022
154 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 11:42 am to
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And which teams attract the most viewers? Hint: I already know the answer.


Yep, I also know the answer. What’s your point?
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
8581 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 6:57 am to
I've always pointed out the distance for non-fb events in these discussions...but their focus is mostly how it helps fb.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
8581 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 7:00 am to
True, BUT how often will teams from opp. sides have to face off each season (basketball, baseball, track/field, etc.)?
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
8581 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 7:04 am to
Right...BUT B1G could have a 2 school lead (Wash. & Ore.). So, does that factor into SEC growth?
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36582 posts
Posted on 3/14/23 at 7:05 am to
We are just going to end up with the North VS South and the championship games will be called Civil Wars.
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