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re: Sumlin to USC, Morris to A&M (Who says no?)
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:53 pm to cardboardboxer
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:53 pm to cardboardboxer
you can pick out outlier examples all you want, just like one can do with trading stocks. But my post still remains truth. It's pretty well known, actually.
Keep in mind I'm not saying TAMU will always be a subpar program. I'm simply saying that USC's recent historical success is enough to assume they with the right coach, they could be back to playing in January.
Keep in mind I'm not saying TAMU will always be a subpar program. I'm simply saying that USC's recent historical success is enough to assume they with the right coach, they could be back to playing in January.
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:53 pm to cardboardboxer
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But yall didn't "let him go." Yall offered a raise that he turned down.
In fact, they offered him more money than he's getting at A&M.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:54 pm to Dawgsontop34
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Sumlin to USC
Would be a downgrade for Sumlin IMO. USC coaching job is a cursed job it seems.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:54 pm to therick711
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Minnesota was fielding winners back when . . . aggy was. I'm not sure that's the best example.
It is a great example. It shows that historical success doesn't really matter as much as mouth breathing college football fans want it to be or we aren't a top 15 job.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:55 pm to Hugh McElroy
So aggy is now upset that USC wouldn't want to hire Sumlin in this thread? 
Simply tremendous. Between that and the lateral move, this lived up to the billing.
Simply tremendous. Between that and the lateral move, this lived up to the billing.Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:55 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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95% of the attractiveness of a college coaching job is money.
95% is strong
I think it is money, but I think it's more about ability win once you hit a level of coaching where you're being offered big time program HC jobs. If you win, the money will come.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:55 pm to therick711
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I see we're back to the Chavis well again.
If people want to make it LSU vs A&M that is where the conversation will go.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:56 pm to cas4t
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Keep in mind I'm not saying TAMU will always be a subpar program. I'm simply saying that USC's recent historical success is enough to assume they with the right coach, they could be back to playing in January.
Sure. No one debates that.
They aren't like Nebraska or Miami. Both of those two programs are fricked for good.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:56 pm to cardboardboxer
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It is a great example. It shows that historical success doesn't really matter as much as mouth breathing college football fans want it to be or we aren't a top 15 job.
A team without historical success' fans bleating about how it doesn't matter. There's a shock. I'm going to have a heart attack and die of not surprise.
This post was edited on 10/12/15 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:56 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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where they live you are delusional
Yeah, well they do care about it I'm sure. All human beings care about where they live. But its not a primary factor.
Or no one would ever coach in some the shitholes some colleges are in. Like Baton Rouge.
But seriously, USC is a truly elite program. It doesn't get much more elite than them.
That being said, I do not think Sumlin will go to USC.
It will be someone like Whittingham or Hugh Freeze.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:56 pm to Dawgsontop34
He already turned the job down once but anything could happen I guess.
If so, I would be thrilled to get Morris.
If so, I would be thrilled to get Morris.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:57 pm to cas4t
Maybe less than that, but it's significantly more important than any other factor.
Also coaches rarely leave a top 20ish job for another one. You could argue there's a certain level where they are all pretty much lateral since coaches almost never leave one for the other
Also coaches rarely leave a top 20ish job for another one. You could argue there's a certain level where they are all pretty much lateral since coaches almost never leave one for the other
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:57 pm to cardboardboxer
I'm not sure why aTm fans are taking this personally!!! There are fans in here of multiple schools saying the same thing! I guess common sense and comprehension are not required at aTm.....
There are 2 arguments here: 1.) Better program USC or aTm? and 2.) Will Sumlin leave for USC if given the opportunity.
1.) It's USC and it's not close!!!
2.) Sumlin isn't leaving; he doesn't have the resume just yet and would not garner the kind of money USC is going to pay......plus, I don't think his philosophy is best fit for USC like say a Gary Patterson (TCU).
There are 2 arguments here: 1.) Better program USC or aTm? and 2.) Will Sumlin leave for USC if given the opportunity.
1.) It's USC and it's not close!!!
2.) Sumlin isn't leaving; he doesn't have the resume just yet and would not garner the kind of money USC is going to pay......plus, I don't think his philosophy is best fit for USC like say a Gary Patterson (TCU).
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Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:58 pm to cardboardboxer
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It is a great example. It shows that historical success doesn't really matter as much as mouth breathing college football fans want it to be or we aren't a top 15 job.
For every outlier example you point out, I can point out even more where it's played out exactly as people expected.
Alabama
Florida
Notre Dame
FSU
I mean we can do this all day. But historical success matters to coaches. It's name recognition. It's something to talk about in recruiting. It's banners to show recruits.
Ask John Calipari if historical success matters. A successful team is going to attract better coaches and hence, better players. I'm sorry that you disagree because TAMU isn't historically very good. It doesn't mean TAMU won't be good. It just means that USC is a better job.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:58 pm to dboyback
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No NFL or bust for Sumlin.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:58 pm to idlewatcher
morris needs to worry about not losing to a 500 FCS team at home first
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:59 pm to fan251
You are very emotionally invested in this thread.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 4:59 pm to Jebeco
Wait, I commented after only reading page 1. Has this thread gone to shite?
Posted on 10/12/15 at 5:00 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Also coaches rarely leave a top 20ish job for another one. You could argue there's a certain level where they are all pretty much lateral since coaches almost never leave one for the other
Completely agree and there is no way in hell Sumlin is leaving. And I wouldn't if I were him, either. Just because I think USC is a better job it doesn't mean I think it'd be wise for Sumlin to start over. You never know what kinda shite might be coming down the pipe that Sark may have left behind for the next guy.
I'll give a caveat. USC is a better job overall, but not a better job for Sumlin right now. I think that's fair.
This post was edited on 10/12/15 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 10/12/15 at 5:00 pm to Jebeco
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Wait, I commented after only reading page 1. Has this thread gone to shite?
Some of the agricultural posters herein got upset that people think USC is a better program (imagine that) and tried to make this a Chavis thread. Thankfully, no one was dumb enough to take the bait.
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