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re: Student turns down all 8 Ivy League Schools for the University of Alabama
Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:51 am to Tuscaloosa
Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:51 am to Tuscaloosa
This thread has taught me that very few people on this board understand graduate degrees.
Yes Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth, etc. are better schools than Alabama. However, if you are planning on continuing your education after your bachelor's degree, it's largely irrelevant where you got got that bachelor's degree.
A free stepping stone bachelor's degree makes more sense to him than a 250k prestigious bachelor's degree. Get over it
I doubt that anybody who has ever gotten an MBA from Penn has ever been turned down for a job because they got their bachelor's from Louisiana-Monroe
Yes Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth, etc. are better schools than Alabama. However, if you are planning on continuing your education after your bachelor's degree, it's largely irrelevant where you got got that bachelor's degree.
A free stepping stone bachelor's degree makes more sense to him than a 250k prestigious bachelor's degree. Get over it
I doubt that anybody who has ever gotten an MBA from Penn has ever been turned down for a job because they got their bachelor's from Louisiana-Monroe
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:51 am to WG_Dawg
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That alone could likely open so many more doors for him down the road.
Not necessarily. One thing I've learned in life is that most people don't really want the "glamorous" finance jobs, consulting jobs, etc that many Ivy League business graduates go into.
If the kid just wants to go get a good education and come back home to a good job, Alabama (or Ole Miss, or MSU, or Auburn, etc) make much more sense than going massively into debt to get a Harvard or Penn degree. To really leverage one of those degrees in the business world, you need to be willing to stay in the northeast or go to the west coast... in my opinion, if you get an Ivy League business degree and end up with an entry level analyst job in Birmingham making $45k a year then you've wasted your money on that Ivy League degree.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:51 am to pvilleguru
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You take the opportunity that makes you happier.
I'm happy riding dirt bikes all day. shite doesn't pay the bills.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:53 am to UAtide11
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Get over it
LOL sounds like the Bama fans need to get over it.
I'd say the same thing to the kid if he picked LSU.
Its more than the "school" when you attend these places.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:54 am to JayDeerTay84
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I'm happy riding dirt bikes all day. shite doesn't pay the bills.
It can if you get good at it.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:56 am to pvilleguru
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It can if you get good at it.
I don't enjoy the type of riding that pays. :/
Its like cane pole fishing. How many professionals get paid catching bream?
Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:57 am to JayDeerTay84
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LOL sounds like the Bama fans need to get over it.
I excited that such a fine student chose to attend. Y'all are the armchair counselors calling a kid with a 4.5 gpa an idiot.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:58 am to JayDeerTay84
Would you take a full ride scholarship in musical theater if your goal was to become an accountant?
Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:58 am to UAtide11
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I excited that such a fine student chose to attend. Y'all are the armchair counselors calling a kid with a 4.5 gpa an idiot.
History is loaded with very smart people making very bad choices in life. :/
Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:58 am to JayDeerTay84
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Its like cane pole fishing. How many professionals get paid catching bream?
I don't know the first thing about that stuff. 
Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:58 am to Tuscaloosa
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Would you take a full ride scholarship in musical theater if your goal was to become an accountant?
At Harvard? yea, because it would be cake and then I'd roll right into the Harvard MBA.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 10:59 am to JayDeerTay84
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At Harvard? yea, because it would be cake and then I'd roll right into the Harvard MBA.
No, you wouldn't.
Harvard wouldn't accept you without work experience and good luck getting suitable work experience with a degree in musical theater.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 11:04 am to MustangReb
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No, you wouldn't.
Harvard wouldn't accept you without work experience and good luck getting suitable work experience with a degree in musical theater.
Actually you can get accepted without work experience in that you get deferred acceptance.
But now being that ya'll are throwing more shite onto a hypothetical, who says I couldn't manage a musical theater? Or work in the movie scene?
Posted on 5/15/15 at 11:05 am to JayDeerTay84
Its not like this guy can't 
other ivy league grads when they name drop. Yeah, i got in to every ivy league school but turned them all down to go to bama 
First question they will ask is did you play football? Let's say he goes to alabama than MD at Vandy and becomes a doctor in memphis. Not going to an ivy league school really isn't a big deal. Now if he wants to go for the prestige thing, than go to bama undergrad and aim for a rhodes scholarship and or big name medical school.
other ivy league grads when they name drop. Yeah, i got in to every ivy league school but turned them all down to go to bama First question they will ask is did you play football? Let's say he goes to alabama than MD at Vandy and becomes a doctor in memphis. Not going to an ivy league school really isn't a big deal. Now if he wants to go for the prestige thing, than go to bama undergrad and aim for a rhodes scholarship and or big name medical school. Posted on 5/15/15 at 11:23 am to StopRobot
That was probably dumb, but I get it. The "college experience" is important to a lot of people, and I assume he got a huge financial aid package that basically paid him to go to school. I did, and it has worked well for me so far.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 11:25 am to StopRobot
He should've gone to an Ivy League school and been just like all the other Alabama fans: cheering for a football team at a school you never attended.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 11:26 am to BallstotheWesleyWall
You go to Ivy League schools for the connections!!
Mistake!!
Mistake!!
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 11:39 am to tiderider
I read the article. He's still a moron.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 11:45 am to StopRobot
I had a friend that did basically this same thing at a different southern state school. It worked out ok, but he still regrets not putting himself in a more challenging academic environment.
Some things to consider here:
What if he changes his mind about med school and chooses a different career path? Then it was dumb to not go Ivy. Kids, even very driven ones, change their minds all the time. Will he maintain the same level of academic commitment in a different environment? If he fricks around at Bama and gets a 3.5, prestigious med schools will be tough. If he does the same at Princeton and gets a 2.5, he won't get into a great med school, but he'll have a degree from Princeton regardless.
Ivy League schools offer a ton of need based financial aid. Would he have qualified for that?
Was there no middle ground? If he got into all 8 Ivies, he probably could have gotten a good bit of aid at a Vandy, UVA, Northwestern, W&L, Duke, etc. type school in the next tier down. He could have hedged his bets a little bit.
Some things to consider here:
What if he changes his mind about med school and chooses a different career path? Then it was dumb to not go Ivy. Kids, even very driven ones, change their minds all the time. Will he maintain the same level of academic commitment in a different environment? If he fricks around at Bama and gets a 3.5, prestigious med schools will be tough. If he does the same at Princeton and gets a 2.5, he won't get into a great med school, but he'll have a degree from Princeton regardless.
Ivy League schools offer a ton of need based financial aid. Would he have qualified for that?
Was there no middle ground? If he got into all 8 Ivies, he probably could have gotten a good bit of aid at a Vandy, UVA, Northwestern, W&L, Duke, etc. type school in the next tier down. He could have hedged his bets a little bit.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 11:53 am to ALT F4
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He's still a moron.
I have some friends/colleagues who double-downed with private school for undergrad and medical school.
I've also seen these same friends/colleagues in residencies right alongside guys who went the Nicholls State undergrad-LSU HSC Shreveport med school route.
Dr Thibodaux might not have 2 prestigious pieces of paper hanging behind his desk, but he's also not 26 years old with a cool half million in student loan debt.
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