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re: Stewart Mandel predicts CFP scenarios

Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:39 am to
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28594 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:39 am to
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If OU and Texas were both one-loss conference champions, yes, absolutely.


So the rest of the schedule does matter in how you evaluate the quality of each team. Interesting.

But let me guess, you only care about # of wins and losses and not the actual strength of those wins and losses? But you also won’t argue for James Madison to be in the playoffs at 11-1 because well, in that case, you want to look at the strength of their wins and losses.
Posted by PerrillouxToTexas
Member since Sep 2022
5330 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:39 am to
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But would you be so confident that Texas would win in a rematch?


Yes. You guys suck. Needed two miracles to beat Auburn, who got run out of their own stadium by New Mexico something or other.
Posted by PerrillouxToTexas
Member since Sep 2022
5330 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:40 am to
We have a better SOS than Alabama.
Posted by bulletprooftiger
Member since Aug 2006
2048 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:41 am to
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Losing to a two-loss team is better than losing to a one-loss team!!!!


Except when its a head-to-head loss at home. It would suck for Bama but it could only blame itself for not taking care of business.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4306 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:42 am to
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But would you be so confident that Texas would win in a rematch?


This doesn't matter. It's the same argument Bama fans tried to make last year with TCU.

Results on the field matter, and Texas beat Bama head to head, and in this scenario both would have the same record and be conference champions. That head to head will count more than everything with the committee, because the reality is they are beholden to the perception of making decisions based on what teams did on the field.

And how can they defend saying Bama is better than Texas (in their selecting the best teams mantra), when Texas beat them ON THE ROAD on the field?

They can't. That's why in that scenario Texas is in.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
5753 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:43 am to
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Yes. You guys suck. Needed two miracles to beat Auburn, who got run out of their own stadium by New Mexico something or other


If they suck, as you say, then they should be blown out by Georgia and it won't matter.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28594 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:44 am to
What’s a worse loss? Losing to Texas or losing to OU?
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4306 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:45 am to
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What’s a worse loss? Losing to Texas or losing to OU?


Losing to Texas, because Texas lost to OU.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28594 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:45 am to
Posted by Decker
Member since Nov 2015
3435 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:46 am to
Mandel has Alabama jumping Texas in all possible scenarios if Alabama wins. Maybe you should email him.
Posted by PerrillouxToTexas
Member since Sep 2022
5330 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:46 am to
rivalry game on a neutral field on the last play vs. being mercy knee'd in your own stadium.

i call it a push.
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:46 am to
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In that case put OU over Texas. They settled it on the field didn’t they?



2 loss OU? Stupid fricking liberal thinking like a stupid fricking liberal again I see.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
2043 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:47 am to
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There is no honest debate as to which resume would be better. If Bama clearly has the better resume (they would) you don’t go to the “head to head tiebreaker.”



I don't disagree, but what if "did they play head to head?" is the first question when looking at said resume?

The problem CFB has with rankings systems is that most teams do not play each other and there are so many conferences that comparing is difficult. We have a unique case when comparing these two resumes where they HAVE played each other, and people want to throw that out because of resumes put together where Bama beat more teams that we all know AREN'T among the best teams in the country (though are still good teams) than Texas did.

I guess all that said to ultimately agree with you on the surface that you put Bama higher But I do think completely disregarding the head to head is a mistake as well
Posted by Pimphand
Member since Sep 2021
704 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:48 am to
That guy sucks balls.

Basically it's simple.....

Pac 12 and B1G IDMAS

Root for Louisville and Alabama unless you are a Georgia or FSU fan
Posted by Boomer Sooner 1890
Member since Jul 2021
487 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:48 am to
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Scenario 11: Alabama, Washington, Louisville and Texas win.
1. Michigan (13-0)
2. Washington (13-0)
3. Alabama (12-1)
4. Georgia (12-1)

5. Texas (12-1)
Georgia stays in if Florida State loses.


This might be the dumbest scenario. Ignoring the stupidity of Bama being #3 and UT #5, putting in UGA is even dumber. UT would have a tougher SOS than UGA, have a conference championship that UGA doesn't, and beat a common opponent by double digits on the road with UGA losing to them at a neutral site.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
5660 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:49 am to
The eye test is something that has been specifically mentioned by the committee.

We already know that it factors in.
Posted by PerrillouxToTexas
Member since Sep 2022
5330 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:50 am to
Good, because Alabama should've beat Auburn by 3 TDs. And Arkansas by more than 3 at home.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15400 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:50 am to
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His rationale when comparing Alabama to Texas is that Alabama will jump to 3 and thus head to head won't be a consideration.


It is a consideration but his logic is Alabama defeating UGA would trump the head to head
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
2043 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:51 am to
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The eye test is something that has been specifically mentioned by the committee.



Which to me means unless FSU puts on a show against Louisville, they aren't in even with a win unless Texas loses.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
5660 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 10:51 am to
That is what hurts Texas. The eye test and the wins and losses that they have had in conference play..
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