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re: State is in as bad of position as any SEC team, ever
Posted on 9/23/24 at 2:51 pm to gaius julius bevo
Posted on 9/23/24 at 2:51 pm to gaius julius bevo
It looks like Arch will start and Ewers will do more healing this week.
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 2:54 pm to Old1937
It's Texas first conference game in the SEC so they will want to make a statement
Posted on 9/23/24 at 2:57 pm to DownSouthJukin
quote:Prove him wrong.
Ladies and gentleman, again, a State fan.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 2:59 pm to anc
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Third coach in three years. 2 returning starters from a 5-7 team, one of the hardest schedules in the nation.
Your situation is unfortunate but understandable and easily explained. It’s tough but just stick it out and bear with it and support the team and coaches.
It’s a predicament no one would want to find themselves in.
We’ve sucked due to bad decisions, but you folks have been a whole different scenario that’s excusable.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:16 pm to pankReb
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People like Rosebowl deserve this.
It’s kind of ironic that Rosebowl weirdo put all of this into action. If not for Rosebowl we don’t get Kiffin.
Thank you to Rosebowl and the douchebag Tupelo lawyer (who was often overheard in public bragging about how he was going to “bring Ole Miss down.”) We couldn’t have done this without you.
Maybe he can write another book.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:17 pm to anc
Can we have Lebby back please
Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:18 pm to anc
Just about every shitty thing that can happen to a middling P4 football program has happened to y’all, and not only that, it’s all happened at the worst possible time. Without getting into to the whats and whys, I’ll just say that I love this for you guys. It’s a very real possibility that the program never recovers. Poetry in motion. Enjoy!
#ComeToTheSip
#ComeToTheSip
Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:25 pm to GreatPumpkin
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I just think about Mike Leach and it makes me sad. Such a good guy and such a great coach and innovator. He belongs in hall of fame
Leach was great for State and I miss him too. He really did a lot calm the vitriol that Mullen really stirred up with Ole Miss. The rivalry didn’t need stirring.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:36 pm to anc
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State is a bunch of snitches and have historically kept Ole Miss below where they should be.
Now hang on a second… you saying Ole Miss has never been in the middle of an MSU investigation? I seem to remember Ole Miss players testifying to the NCAA in the early 2000’s MSU investigation. And a booster pretty close to the lead investigator. Pretty much a mirror image to your last investigation.
The NCAA tit for tat is no way one sided.
Hell, one of the biggest sham investigations ever was the Larry Gillard investigation that was somehow tipped off. MSU had to forfeit 2 complete seasons and go on probation because one MSU lineman got a clothing discount that every single MSU student got. Not free…. A discount.
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:48 pm to CleverUserName
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I seem to remember Ole Miss
Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:54 pm to The Winner
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I knew blowing up the Leach offense would be bad and people still celeberate it.
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I knew blowing up the Leach offense would be bad and people still celeberate it.
That's a Catch 22.
The short answer is that State never should have gone with the Pirate. (RIP Legend, all due respect, etc).
He just wasn't a good fit. Miss State had a very distinctive football culture. They recruited lunch pail country boys. They ran the football. They played ferocious defense. And they wore you down and stayed competitive and tried to beat you in the 4th quarter. They didn't turn the ball over. etc etc.
Now they bring in the Pirate as a knee jerk reaction to OM hiring Lane.
His offense is the exact, literal, 180 degree different direction from what State had been for 50 years. So he tears that culture down, and builds a team in his own image.
Then he dies. And you guys go a totally different direction. And then you hire a guy with a different philosophy alltogether.
I think State will basically be in the wilderness until it gets back to its country boy identity and recruits to it. Hire the coaches that fit who you are, not the other way around.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:56 pm to No Colors
State fans were pretty unhappy with Leach's tenure anyways. Had he lost the 2022 egg, his seat would've been on fire heading into 2023.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:58 pm to sorantable
responding to a post is now supposed to be some kind of infatuation or “obsession” now? In a thread about MSU? Sorry… please continue your posts about MSU in an MSU thread unabated. I’ll step aside
Posted on 9/23/24 at 4:00 pm to ChapelHillSooner
They only play 1 P4 ooc so no sympathy here.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 4:01 pm to Quicksilver
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Had he lost the 2022 egg, his seat would've been on fire heading into 2023.
He just won 9 games with a qb that couldn’t throw it 50 yards with a stiff breeze at his back.
No. His seat would have been quite comfortable.
I’m at a loss as to where this “Leach was about to be canned” talk is coming from with opposing team fans. It wasn’t true then and isn’t now.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 4:05 pm to No Colors
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Now they bring in the Pirate as a knee jerk reaction to OM hiring Lane.
Again. This is false.
Moorhead had completely lost control of the players to the point our quarterback’s eye socket got fractured in an “altercation” in the locker room. Then the fight after the bowl game on TV.
Leach was ready to move on when called. So he came.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 4:05 pm to Quicksilver
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State fans were pretty unhappy with Leach's tenure anyways. Had he lost the 2022 egg, his seat would've been on fire heading into 2023.
The ones I know enjoyed Leach as a novelty -- just as I did -- but they had deep reservations about him being a long term fit for the football program. And I think their deepest fears have been realized.
Interesting side story about Leach: In either July or August of 2022 he got what was basically a terminal disgnosis. He was told by his doctors to retire from coaching and seek immediate treatment. And with that he could have extended his life by maybe 3-5 years. He told them to pound sand.
He looked terrible towards the end of the season. Congestive heart failure. Liver failure. Pneaumonia setting in. He promised the State admins that he would announce his retirement and leave Starkville immediately after the Egg Bowl and go somewhere and get on a heart transplant list. I actually heard that they were talking to him about the timing of the press conference and he just stopped responding to their calls.
He basically ignored the situation and stayed around his house in Starkville until he fell over dead. But I guess he went out on his own terms?
Posted on 9/23/24 at 4:05 pm to CleverUserName
8 games but yes. Maybe you didn't feel that way but there were plenty of state fans that were very concerned with the direction of the program and the thought that if it continued, it would be difficult to change direction when the time came. Heading into that Auburn game in 2022, the seat was getting warm.
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 9/23/24 at 4:10 pm to anc
It’s bad. State is going to have to find their niche. Looking for the good 3-4 star talent and expect to get raided by rich teams for a while when any of them show out.
Be more physical and meaner than everyone else, or be smarter and faster. I’d go with option one until your boosters decide to get off their wallets.
Be more physical and meaner than everyone else, or be smarter and faster. I’d go with option one until your boosters decide to get off their wallets.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 4:14 pm to Quicksilver
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Maybe you didn't feel that way but there were plenty of state fans that were very concerned with the direction of the program and the thought that if it continued, it would be difficult to change direction when the time came. Heading into that Auburn game in 2022, the seat was getting warm.
Well, I mean, as an alumni and season ticket holder, I do very occasionally speak with other like minded folks on a very regular basis and no… there was no consensus among any group that Leach was on any kind of hot seat.
The concern was.. and what should be agreeably so… was that Leach was no spring chicken and then the time eventually came for him to retire and move on, there would be an issue of retooling the team by another coach. And that was going to take time.
Plus there would be time to at least search for a qualified candidate.
Problem is, we expected that to be 4 or 5 years more. Not the months it turned out to be.
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