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re: Spurrier doesn't think the SEC should keep permanent cross-division foes.

Posted on 4/24/13 at 4:06 pm to
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 4/24/13 at 4:06 pm to
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If by "much" you mean "8 or 9 years" then you're right.

Aggies who think 89-94 is all LSU was pre-2000 are so incredibly ignorant it's incredible.


From 1934 to 2000 LSU won four conference titles, only three of which were outright, and one national title. Prior to Nick Saban you had never played in an SECCCG. You finished ranked in the AP poll 23 times in 66 seasons. You won eight or more games 23 times and nine or more just 17.

A&M, who has a pretty average history, beats the pre-Saban Tigers in almost every way.
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 4/24/13 at 4:07 pm to
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I have never once heard a UF fan or representative of the university ever complain that their game with LSU shouldn't be played yearly


They recently changed their position vis-a-vis permanent opponents, but this statement proves you don't know what you're talking about.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/24/13 at 4:08 pm to
The point is that Saban isn't leaving the Dolphins for Tennessee because of the disadvantages your program faces in the 21st century college football world.
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 4/24/13 at 4:08 pm to
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From 1934 to 2000 LSU won four conference titles, only three of which were outright, and one national title. Prior to Nick Saban you had never played in an SECCCG. You finished ranked in the AP poll 23 times in 66 seasons. You won eight or more games 23 times and nine or more just 17.

A&M, who has a pretty average history, beats the pre-Saban Tigers in almost every way.


Who frickING cares. You're just here to flame as this has nothing to do with anything.
Posted by Robert Goulet
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Posted on 4/24/13 at 4:10 pm to
You're right big guy, which makes this argument even more pitiful.

Hopefully LSU can get a doormat like UT as a perm rival for sanity's sake.
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 4/24/13 at 4:10 pm to
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You're right big guy, which makes this argument even more pitiful.

Hopefully LSU can get a doormat like UT as a perm rival for sanity's sake.


It would be nice, because LSU has a lot of work to do to make the historical series look better.

Fun fact, it will take LSU 500* years under the current format to tie UT assuming they could win every single matchup over that time period.


*Note: may not be accurate.
This post was edited on 4/24/13 at 4:13 pm
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 4/24/13 at 4:12 pm to
Well, it matters because its a fact that is bing disputed as a mens of discrediting a valid argument. If LSU, a program others fed on for large segments of history, is now the top
dog in a position to whine about scheduling they really shouldnt be whining in he first place.
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 4/24/13 at 4:13 pm to
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What you wrote about what? There were those that considered Bama a dead program in the early 2000s.


Dead as a fricking door nail, with assclowns like the three "Mike's" trying to run the program.

No one gave a shite that Bama was getting their asses handed to them by the likes of Phil Fulmer - Terry Bowden - Tommy Tuberville - Nick Saban.

But now that Bama has one of the best college coaches in the country behind the wheel, and keeps on hauling in top talent, the LSU head coach, AD & fanbase wants to cry "not fair", "easier path", etc?



Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 4/24/13 at 4:15 pm to
DWI
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 4/24/13 at 4:15 pm to
Butch Jones has had no problem recruiting, neither did Lane Kiffin, or even Fulmer after TV coverage leveled out. It takes a pretty incompetent coach to not recruit well to Tennessee, and Derek Dooley is one of the most incompetent the league has ever seen. Hell, even he was able to sign top 10-15 classes.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 4/24/13 at 4:15 pm to
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#2 you're putting words in my mouth. Go back and actually read what I wrote. Tennessee is the SEC's version of Nebraska.


Uh, Nebraska has won at least nine games seven of the last eight years and ten or more three times. Hardly a doormat. If Tennessee is even consistently winning 9+ games then this is all moot.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/24/13 at 4:16 pm to
Im on my phone right now so i cant break everything sown for you the way id like to but from the 30's - the 80's LSU was a top 10-15 program every single decade. I'm not saying we're Notre Dame, but our pre-Saban history is far from "dogshit" like you claimed.

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A&M, who has a pretty average history, beats the pre-Saban Tigers in almost every way.


I don't have the numbers in front if me but I'd like to see how the top 10 totals and major bowl appearances compare.

Then I'd like to flip it on you and take LSU's total top 10's and major bowls and compare that to A&M's minus the Sherril and early Slocum era, you know while we're discounting the others best eras but including our team's
This post was edited on 4/24/13 at 4:21 pm
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 4/24/13 at 4:17 pm to
UT fans are the ones that should really be offended by LSU's constant whining. LSU fans/administrators are really suggesting that UT is through being a relevant, SEC/top level contending football program.
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
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Posted on 4/24/13 at 4:17 pm to
From 2007-2010, these are the number of SEC games played when the opponent had an open week prior to the game

17—Alabama, 5—LSU, 4—Vanderbilt, 4—Florida, 4—Tennessee, 3—Georgia, 3—Auburn, 2—Kentucky, 1—Ole Miss, 1—Mississippi State, 0—Arkansas, 0—South Carolina

Legitimate argument
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 4/24/13 at 4:17 pm to
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Uh, Nebraska has won at least nine games seven of the last eight years and ten or more three times. Hardly a doormat. If Tennessee is even consistently winning 9+ games then this is all moot.


I didn't say they'd be a doormat forever, just that they won't be what they were.

And no, it's not moot because their ceiling is significantly lower than UF and UGA's
This post was edited on 4/24/13 at 4:19 pm
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 4/24/13 at 4:19 pm to
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DWI


Oh, we dealin with it pretty nicely these days. Winning the last 3 out of 4 will help a man cope with trivial bullshite.
Posted by cornhat
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Posted on 4/24/13 at 4:19 pm to
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Search for one of the dozens of threads about them not playing a NCG outside of the state of Florida. The tenor of those threads is a lot like this one. You guys are so fricking blind it is hilarious. Also, there's like 5 UF posters here.

And who starts those threads? LSU fans. Bitchin bout everything. This thread is started by an LSU fan citing Spurrier's thoughts about cross-division rivals when the column it's linking to is about Les complaining about the schedule.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 4/24/13 at 4:20 pm to
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If Tennessee is even consistently winning 9+ games then this is all moot.
Git 'er done Butch!!!! So this constant whining and knashing of teeth by these LSU folks will finally go away.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 4/24/13 at 4:21 pm to
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This thread is started by an LSU fan citing Spurrier's thoughts about cross-division rivals when the column it's linking to is about Les complaining about the schedule.


Yeah, that was me, and it's gone 11 pages.

Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 4/24/13 at 4:22 pm to
Well, for starters we won ten more conference titles in that time frame. We had the same number of national titles, same number of Heisman winners and similar winning percentages. We finished ranked in the AP poll 25 times.

Oh, and in before someone not up on their CFB history says the SWC conference was much weaker than the SEC for all those years.
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