re: Spinoff Thread: Why not UAB?

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Bama is also the reason UAB exists, genius. They're lucky to even field a football team. Other extension schools can't say the same, just ask AU-M. Instead of worrying about the UA extension school football program, why don't you ask the AU BOTs to invest in a team for AUM. At least UAB has a football team...

Did you say UA tries to keep UAB down with a straight face? UA practically gave them the medical school. If UA wants to keep them down, they could easily move the medical school BACK to the main campus. After all, I don't see AU-Opelika moving their veterinary college to Montgomery. Not to mention the UA BOTs have invested an untold amount of money into UAB over the years. All of that could have very well gone to UA.

Until your main campus transforms the Montgomery campus into something more than a community college, I wouldn't say anything negative about the UA system.

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Damn this might be one of the finest posts I have read on here in a long time.

If UA was actually worried about competing with UAB in football (which is such an idiotic idea to begin with) then the UA system never starts a football program at UAB in the 90's to begin with. If the UA system is focused on making sure the UAB athletic department never succeeds, they don't go out and hire big name basketball coaches like Gene Bartow, Mike Anderson, and Mike Davis.

Like Mr. Pitt said so well, if UA is the reason UAB athletics sucks, then AU is the reason AUM athletics sucks.

The real reason UAB football sucks is because it is in a small state dominated by two SEC football powers who have collectively won the last 4 national titles in a row. There is no room for another successful football program in this state and never will be.

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bump.

need to laugh more.

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Agreed. Although I can't decide whether to laugh more at the OP or Tiger in Miami's full meltdown over how UA treats UAB.

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Damn this might be one of the finest posts I have read on here in a long time.

If UA was actually worried about competing with UAB in football (which is such an idiotic idea to begin with) then the UA system never starts a football program at UAB in the 90's to begin with. If the UA system is focused on making sure the UAB athletic department never succeeds, they don't go out and hire big name basketball coaches like Gene Bartow, Mike Anderson, and Mike Davis.

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Yeah, it is a fine post because it was wrong and factually inaccurate as I pointed out and as another bama poster backed up.

There is something seriously wrong with a lot of gumps around here.

And yes it is annoying when even after being corrected, another gump/updyke chimes in with the same incorrect ignorant stupidity.

Why do you guys embarrass yourself so much? Or do you not even realize it?

Did it go right over your head that UAT did not "give" UAB a football team? The other gump even said UAT could take the UAB medical program back.

WTF are you gumps doing posting such nonsense? I guess it is painfully obvious you are ignorant, but even after being told UAB is autonomous and independent, you still haven't figured it out? Hell, they even have their own endowment completely seperate and about 60% as large as UAT's. UAT and UAB are seperate independant university's.

Unfortunately, some hirings have to be approved by a board made up of UAT and UAB representatives, but mostly UAT. And the board is run by Bryant Jr, who only cares about football and was in fact scared of UAB when UAB wanted to hire Fisher.

Sucks for UAB, but that is the way UAT operates.

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You got your arse owned, go hide in the corner somewhere.

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HOW???

Explain it, please.

Gump said UAT could take back the medical school, runs UAB and they are just an extension.

How in the frick is correcting a stupid factually incorrect statement getting owned. Explain that.

UAT prevented UAB from hiring a good coach as I pointed out.

How is that getting owned?

Why the frick chime in saying something so fricking stupid? Is it because that little red A by your name forces you to lie?

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So, can you tell me why Alabama won't play them in football? If they are so horrible, it would be an easy non-conference opponent. Why not help throw a little money to your extension school?

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I will.

1. Back in the mid-90s, UAB was trying to schedule AL and AU as well as other SEC schools to up their profile. They were trying to hire a quality coach as well. The program actually had some momentum.

2. UAT was worried about UAB's football program growing and getting stronger. They refused to play UAB while AU and other SEC schools did not.

3. UAT's board cock-blocked UAB due to concerns about themselves and out of fear of UAB. First they would not approve the hiring of Pat Sullivan. Then they blocked the hire of Jimbo Fisher when it was a done deal on both sides and the UAB boosters had raised the cash to hire him and Fisher had agreed to take the position in 2006.

4. UAB's program is now piss poor and they do not feel they will ever have a chance to build it and compete due to meddling and cock-blocking from UAT and Bryant Jr.

More from the Bham news about the shadiness and likely laws broken by the UAT BOT in regards to UAB.

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There is plenty of room for a healthy debate within the UAB community and on the University of Alabama System Board of Trustees about whether UAB needs an on-campus football stadium.

The chance for such a debate mysteriously disappeared from the Board of Trustees' agenda for this week's meeting after every indication the proposal would be considered.
The conspiracy theorists once again are blaming the trustees for home cooking. The theory goes something like this: A majority of trustees are afraid the UAB football program may one day seriously compete with the Crimson Tide's football program. Trustees' interference kept UAB from hiring a good football coach who could build the program and support for it. Now, the trustees are pulling the chance for UAB to have an on-campus stadium.

That's the argument. Trustees didn't help themselves by refusing to discuss the stadium proposal in public. The statement from the Board of Trustees said a "majority of the Board believes that an on-campus football stadium is not in the best interest of UAB, the University System or the State."

One is forced to wonder when the trustees got together to determine what the "majority's" wishes were. A secret meeting would violate the state's open-meetings law. So, too, would using "electronic communications," such as telephones or email, to poll members and circumvent the provisions of the law.

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Some observers believe UAB's program suffers a lack of support because it must play games at old, increasingly decrepit Legion Field. UAB completed a feasibility study that said an on-campus stadium could be supported. UAB boosters had received commitments for 27 luxury boxes at the 30,000-seat stadium, and the project had strong support from the Birmingham Business Alliance, Operation New Birmingham and the UAB student community.

Their perspectives deserved an airing before the Board of Trustees. Instead, the trustees look secretive and closed-minded. They didn't just kill the idea; they did it without considering all the arguments in a public meeting.

An on-campus stadium at UAB may or may not make sense. But there's no question the way the trustees handled this issue does not.

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If they could actually get people to go to their games, they would have an easier time convincing the BOT to build a new stadium.

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Did you read what I pasted from the Bham news?

They have their own funding. UAT's BOT is blocking them without a vote because they have no legit reason to stop them.

How the frick can they get support when they are forced to remain at Legion Field and the UAT board blocks them when they want to hire a decent coach.

UAB would be a very different and at least semi-respectable program today, in all likelihood, without the UAT BOT's interference and cock-blocking.

As a fan, I would still go to games no matter what the stadium coaching situation was.

Hell, I've probably been to more UAB games than most of their students.